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How do you use Jamstix in Ableton Live?

 
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El Taube
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: How do you use Jamstix in Ableton Live? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm exploring the demo version of Ableton Live 5. I'm not familiar with non-linear sequencing at all and I was wondering how could I use Jamstix with Live.

I was able to jam but I have no clue about how to use arrangements and so on. Live users: how do you use Jamstix?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I´d say if you are able to get Jamstix going and jam with live you got the main thing going.
The non-linear approach to sequencing (session mode) together with its cool real-time audio warping abilities make Live a very unique application.

It is a complex DAW, though, and requires to RTFM ( Smile ) to fully grasp it.

On the midi side I´d say it is still a bit immature, and there are issues when you want to record Jamstix´midi out for further editing in Live (see the respective thread http://rayzoon.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=37 ).

But recording loops of Jamstix audio and manipulate them with all the warping tools is pure fun.

If you have special questions, don´t hesitate to ask. But again I recommend to read the manual which comes with Live Demo to grasp the whole concept.
I can also mail you 2 Live sets preconfigured for Jamstix that I made. One hosts Jamstix with 2 outputs, one host Jamstix for 7 (stereo-) outputs.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to hijack El Taube's thread, but I'm also wrestling with Jamstix in Live 5, and I hope the answers to my questions may help both of us.

I can jam with no problems, but I have two specific questions:

1. Can I record a clip, then get Jamstix to jam with the clip?

2. How do I record Jamstix's output in Live?

And yes, I haven't RTFM fully, but I'm working on it! Smile

Thanks in advance

Ron
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RonF wrote:

1. Can I record a clip, then get Jamstix to jam with the clip?


Of course, yes. When your clip follows the tempo, Jamstix can come in anytime

RonF wrote:

2. How do I record Jamstix's output in Live?


-Create a Midi Track.
-Insert Jamstix as VSTI for that Midi Track.
-For the Midi Track select Midi from ALL INS, ALL CHANNELS, Audio to MASTER, Monitor AUTO.

-Create an Audio Track.
-For the Audio Track select Audio from JAMSTIX, Track Out, Audio to MASTER, Monitor IN.

Arm the audio track and start recording.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc wrote:
RonF wrote:

1. Can I record a clip, then get Jamstix to jam with the clip?


Of course, yes. When your clip follows the tempo, Jamstix can come in anytime


Thanks Doc. I hope I'm not being stupid (although I probably am) but I can't seem to get the Jamstix track to 'see' the audio track with the clip. Confused

(Again, El Taube, apologies for taking over your thread)

Ron
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Doc,

Thank you for your reply. I'd love to try your live sets Very Happy
You are surely right, I have to study the program deeply because until now I have only tried to understand the basics.

Thank you again.


PS: RonF, don't worry about hijacking: your questions were insteresting for me too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@RonF: Have you inserted AudioM8 in the audio track that you want Jamstix to jam with (i.e. follow velocity) ?

@ El Taube: I´ll send my Live Sets to Ralph. He will surely host them for download. But you can drop me an email and I´ll send them to you directly, too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Doc"]@RonF: Have you inserted AudioM8 in the audio track that you want Jamstix to jam with (i.e. follow velocity) ?
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I think I did, but I'll try again this evening, just in case.

Thanks,

Ron
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Doc,

my address is ***********

Thank you again


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc's templates are now available on our 'Downloads' page.

Here's a direct link:
http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix_templates_live5.zip

Many thanks, Doc!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Doc, I've got it all working now.

I appreciate your help.

Ron
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