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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject: Hi Hat Help Reply with quote

Hey guys

I am trying to figure out what Brain element (Drummer or Style) that I need to add to the Accent page to get cool cymbal work like the HH starting around 36s in this tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQajZ5zKWY


Later on he does some HH stuff where he does some slight opening and closing that also sounds cool. Any suggestions there?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:23 pm    Post subject: Hands Rudiment? Reply with quote

I added the Hands Rudiment from Carmine to see if it will do what I want but I cannot get JS to generate any Rudiments.

I did click Active so that it is now Blue or Enabled.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Hands Rudiment? Reply with quote

TheSystem wrote:
I added the Hands Rudiment from Carmine to see if it will do what I want but I cannot get JS to generate any Rudiments.

I did click Active so that it is now Blue or Enabled.

Any ideas?

Please do a 'Save Song' in JS and send me the file so I can check this out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Hands Rudiment? Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
TheSystem wrote:
I added the Hands Rudiment from Carmine to see if it will do what I want but I cannot get JS to generate any Rudiments.

I did click Active so that it is now Blue or Enabled.

Any ideas?

Please do a 'Save Song' in JS and send me the file so I can check this out.


well shoot.

i was just putting the email together but before i did, i loaded up the previous version (7) of the song and now it is working. odd.

after i started this thread, i cleared the song and created a new one with Carmine. I created a cool Rudiment and saved that Bar. I then loaded up the song that was not working, loaded my saved Bar and saved a new version (Cool.

i just emailed version 8 which is not working for me. it looks like it was saved with the Hands Rudiment not Active but when I do make it Active (Blue) I see the same behavior I saw in version 7.

Ralph is there any way to increase the volume or power of several hit pieces at once relative to one another?

For example, that Rudiment I created and loaded sounded cool but the volume was too low. I selected the Snare and HH hits but when I increased the power it sounded like all hits went to the same level and all the cool nuances were gone.

BTW, I know that when the Rudiments are working I can use the Power knob to do this.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject: nm Reply with quote

version 7 is again showing this behavior.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, looks to me like you've locked the bars. The brain will not compose into a locked bar. Please unlock the bars before toggling brain elements or adding new ones etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm    Post subject: do i have to unlock All Bars in the part? Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
Brian, looks to me like you've locked the bars. The brain will not compose into a locked bar. Please unlock the bars before toggling brain elements or adding new ones etc.


Hi Ralph

do i have to unlock All Bars in the part?

i tend to not do it this way but rather unlock the current bar (click the Red lock on the bottom left part of the screen) so I only effect the bar I am working on at the time.

i have been doing it this way forever and also with this song.

the file i sent most likely had all of the Bars locked but i assure you that i have unselected the lock so it is no longer Red and i do not get Rudiments.

i will see what i can do to get a short video of what i am doing and send that to you.

thanks for your help
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:32 pm    Post subject: just sent video link Reply with quote

hey ralph

i just sent an email with a video link in it. i did a Windows 10 capture that is over 25 (~32M) so gmail will not add teh video as an attachment but uploads it to my Google Drive. the email should have a link that allows r.zeuner@rayzoon.com editing access.

let me know if you have any trouble getting the video man.

and thanks again
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, the problem in the video is that you are only unlocking bar 15, which is a repetition bar of bar 11 so when it recomposes, it copies the data from bar 11, which is still locked. Either unlock the core bar (#11) and edit there or unlock the whole part.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
Brian, the problem in the video is that you are only unlocking bar 15, which is a repetition bar of bar 11 so when it recomposes, it copies the data from bar 11, which is still locked. Either unlock the core bar (#11) and edit there or unlock the whole part.


interesting. good to know.

so in this song i do not want bar 15 to be like bar 11.

so i guess the best thing to do is to copy Verse 1 which is 4 Bars x 4 Reps and then make each part 4 Bars x 2 Reps?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:03 pm    Post subject: that did it Reply with quote

TheSystem wrote:
Ralph [RZ] wrote:
Brian, the problem in the video is that you are only unlocking bar 15, which is a repetition bar of bar 11 so when it recomposes, it copies the data from bar 11, which is still locked. Either unlock the core bar (#11) and edit there or unlock the whole part.


interesting. good to know.

so in this song i do not want bar 15 to be like bar 11.

so i guess the best thing to do is to copy Verse 1 which is 4 Bars x 4 Reps and then make each part 4 Bars x 2 Reps?

brian


i guess i should have known better.

thanks for helping
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: that did it Reply with quote

TheSystem wrote:

i guess i should have known better.
thanks for helping

In your defense, it does get tricky with the core/rep bar concept and the locking.
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