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Shuffling Fills?

 
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Junior Jammer
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Shuffling Fills? Reply with quote

I'm working on a track with heavy 16th note shuffle using Brush Swing/Brush Player. The trouble is that the fills being generated don't seem to shuffle at all. They're played straight, which tends to make the drummer sound like he's lost all his groove.

Under "Structure" I have it cranked way up, but it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Any idea what I'm missing?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure 'No 16th Shuffling' in the brain menu fill options is NOT checked.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ralph.

Yep, that would be it. Some day I'll manage to uncover all the cool hidden menus and options and actually remember them from session to session!

Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph,

It *seems* like maybe the shuffle element of the beta is different in the MIDI output (to Battery) than what is played internally. I can get a pretty tight shuffle using, say, the internal jazz kit, but when I push the MIDI out to Battery, every few measures the drummer sounds like he drops to straight time for a few hits. In other words, he sounds like he sucks. I've looked for a "make drummer suck when using MIDI" function but I'm not finding it. Smile

Is it possible that inconsistent internal latency in the MIDI signal could explain it?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your host and latency?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ableton Live (with a very high latency of 1024 samples because I'm running Melodyne in this project. Delay Compensation is turned on.

Is that the problem?

By the way, exporting the MIDI file from JamStix and reloading it onto Battery sounds just fine with no loss of shuffle, but of course I lose the interactivity of having JamStix directly linked to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds as if Ableton Live may have real-time MIDI timing issues at 1024.
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