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Jan 2011: State of the 'Stix?
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heyjohn
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
We are still battling various major issues that can impact the timeline.


First, before I ask this: I have both respect & faith -- I've been on board since Jamstix 1, and have bought the latest stuff even though I've not been able to use it much on my Mac. (Zero Jamstix recordings since switching... ouch.)

But... what approaches will you consider to get a Mac version out in a predictable (or even good!) timeframe? Here are some thoughts:

1) Keep battling, the problems will yield, and perhaps the folks at Apple Developer Support like really tough questions. Smile

2) Split the MIDI generation from the Audio. Jamstix kits are good, but it's not as if Mac users don't have at least GarageBand kits. I often use Superior Drummer, so I'd be happy with this.

3) VST first, AU later. Although I've coded neither, I've observed that VST coders have troubles with AU.

4) Some hosts first, others later. Everyone has GarageBand, but stuff such as Studio One, Logic, Live, and Cubase (to name a few) are out there, too.

5) Contractors. Perhaps worth the increased cost for experience and expertise.

6) Cut features that are traumatically difficult, at least for the first alpha or beta.

7) Something magical that I've not thought of. You tend to be good at that, witness Jamstix itself! Smile

I really miss jamming with Jamstix (although I don't miss Windows), so I hope that there's some approach you can take that will resurrect my favorite electronic companion for my Mac... If any of the above sound good -- why not float the idea and see what folks would like for a pre-alpha or whatever? Especially if it's #7 Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph, thanks for your answer ! )
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
After that comes Jamstix OSX some time this year. We also have another sound expansion planned for 2011..

Please give an update on the status of Jamstix for OS X.
Will it be released in 2011 as you stated?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're still grappling with issues on the OSX front Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
We're still grappling with issues on the OSX front Sad

Thanks for the update.

Do you expect substantial a delay?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you won't give an answer to the delivery date thing, too many developers have been stung by that one, but have you considered the points by heyjohn above? Especially with #7. Do they seem helpful at all?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are considering everything. This is just something we have to fight our way through. At the same time we need to provide updates for PC, complete native 64-bit and put out expansions since there are many happy PC JS users out there.

A simplified Jamstix has been on the table for a long time and is prime candidate for an initial OSX release.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heyjohn wrote:
2) Split the MIDI generation from the Audio. Jamstix kits are good, but it's not as if Mac users don't have at least GarageBand kits. I often use Superior Drummer, so I'd be happy with this.


I would be EXTREMELY interested in this.

Ralph, is there any chance of having a special (also more affordable Smile) version of Jamstix that only processes MIDI and just links to the drum sampler of your choice, that you have already? I don't need a fourth drum sampler, next to EZD, AD, and BFD Eco - just the "brain" would suffice! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's being considered but may not be economical.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm - in that case how about an option in installer not to install the kits?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in this too, that's the main reason I bought Jamstix, for the brain, I already have tons of drum sounds......
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