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how do i say to jamstix: I want the beat to sound like THIS

 
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Jae.Thomas
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: how do i say to jamstix: I want the beat to sound like THIS Reply with quote
hi!

I have an original that is quite old, but the main thing that was boring about it was the drum beat. I like the beat, but the feel and the fills are obviously plastic... anyway, I can't seem to get this beat to be the overall beat.

how do I use the midi file from the original song:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/beat.MID

and what drummer/style should I use?

this might help me learn my way around jamstix!

here is a clip:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/couldntcareclip.mp3

this is what happens when I put mike portnoy in it lol:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/couldnt_care006craziness.mp3
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I recommend you use 'Import' style and load your MID into it. Try these drummers and see what you like the most:

Chad (Restrained Preset)
Danny (reduce kick accents)
Jason
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ralph [RZ] wrote:
I recommend you use 'Import' style and load your MID into it. Try these drummers and see what you like the most:

Chad (Restrained Preset)
Danny (reduce kick accents)
Jason


what would be the process with using the song wizard this way? I do this and seem to get only fills every so often...

and when i got it to work somehow, all the velocities for that part were 127, the rest were more "normal" - how do I change that? Do I have to edit the midi?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
- load 'Import' style and then MID file
- click 'Save Style Preset' in the brain menu
- access song builder and choose 'Import' style and then your just saved preset
- make sure verse and chorus length fits your needs
- create song

Let me know if this works for you and if you have any velocity issues afterwards.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ralph [RZ] wrote:
- load 'Import' style and then MID file


so I go here:



which makes this happen:



so i select that, then get my midi file from here:



I assume these settings are right:



now i see this:




go to here:

Ralph [RZ] wrote:

- click 'Save Style Preset' in the brain menu


which i assume is here?



Ralph [RZ] wrote:

- access song builder and choose 'Import' style and then your just saved preset


like so?



Ralph [RZ] wrote:

- make sure verse and chorus length fits your needs
- create song

Let me know if this works for you and if you have any velocity issues afterwards.


still, all the hits are 127, as shown:



and heard:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/couldnt_care-005.mp3

should i just edit the original .mid?

perhaps all of the velos were really high in that - but there's no way to alter it afterwards? no way to just turn down the brain or something?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I made the midi to have all 100 velocity hits -

I have no idea how to change it after.

there seems to be some mismatches between certain hits - IE the ride is light, but the snare is hard... maybe I need to go into the drum vsti and change some settings but, can I alter how the groove works in jamstix?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another way would be this:

- use 'Silent' style and drummer
- use 'Import' MIDI in the part menu to load the MID file
- now use the bar editor on one bar to adjust the groove as needed (use the arrow circle to preview). You can adjust velocities etc.
- when you are happy with it, click 'Turn Groove Into Style' in the bar editor menu and off you go.

This method basically let's you edit the MID groove in JS. Once done, you can use a drummer of choice to interpret it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
so once a groove is a style, the velocities are set? What about this knob?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the net Beta, you will be able to activate the 'Power' knob on the importer so you can amplify/attenuate velocity of the imported groove.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ok, I will await notification of a beta.

thank you for your prompt replies.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
but after import, is there a way to make sure the fills that are inserted have a similar velocity?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You'd make the fills the way you want and then use the power on the importer to line it up.
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