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Problems in Sonar 8.5 on Windows 7 (64 bit)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Problems in Sonar 8.5 on Windows 7 (64 bit) Reply with quote

I'm having problems with trying to use Jamstix 3 in either the 32 or 64 bit versions of Sonar 8.5. Jamstix loads fine, and can play the internal sounds fine. If I try to sub-host another plug-in, it never loads. Worse, if I try to save the song (in Jamstix), or load one I had created prior to installing on my current computer, Jamstix disappears from the project, and Sonar locks up. Then I have to reboot.

I don't seem to have any problems running Jamstix in Sonar 7 (32 bit).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 64-bit issue. Please use MIDI driving instead of subhosting as follows:

- click MIDI OUT ONLY in the JS3 Mixer
- load your desired kit (it will NOT load the subhosted DLL)
- load your external drum plugin in Sonar directly
- add a MIDI track with input=Jamstix and output=your drum plugin
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
This is a 64-bit issue. Please use MIDI driving instead of subhosting as follows:

- click MIDI OUT ONLY in the JS3 Mixer
- load your desired kit (it will NOT load the subhosted DLL)
- load your external drum plugin in Sonar directly
- add a MIDI track with input=Jamstix and output=your drum plugin


Thanks, I'll do that. Is there any way to get Jamstix to save songs when it's running in a 64 bit host? So far the only way to save songs without crashing is to do it in Sonar 7. I am thinking of installing Jamstix on my older Win XP machine, and syncing the two computers via midi.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please send me rzdlog.txt from My Documents\Jamstix3
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's rzdlog.txt:


<3256><0.0> 10/23/2010 10:46:59 AM
<3256><0.0> Jamstix 3.1 Beta 5
<3256><0.0> Host: FX Teleport Server
<3256><0.0> Data: C:\jamstix3\data
<3256><0.0> Plugin: c:\windows\vst plug-ins\Jamstix 3\
<3256><0.0> Cores: 4/15
<3256><0.0> Thread ID: 3256
<3256><0.0> Bar Offset (A): 0
<3256><0.0> Bar Offset (V): 0
<3256><0.0> Output Latency: 0
<3256><0.0> Input Latency: 0
<3256><0.0> Inputs: 0
<3256><0.0> Outputs: 16
<3256><0.0> Log Flush: 0
<3256><0.0> audioM8 Mapping
<3256><0.0> JS1:
<3256><0.0> JS2:
<3256><0.0> Creating LoD Event
<3256><0.0> Creating WaveStore
<3256><0.2> Creating LoD Thread P=3 ST:0
<3256><0.2> ID=5972
<3256><0.2> Scanning sounds
<3256><10.9> Scan sounds: 692/0/0
<3256><10.9> Creating Editor
<3256><11.0> Plug Init Done
<3256><11.0> LoD Thread Active
<7084><11.7> STATUS: tMem=4194 fMem=4194 tID=7084@2 LOD OL:0 MX:0 TO:0 [hStop]
<7084><12.2> IFACE BPM:120 TS:4/4 PPQ:0 SR:44100 BS:512
<3256><12.3> GUI Request
<3256><12.3> GUI CREATION
<3256><12.4> GUI Init Started (Thread ID=3256)
<3256><12.4> Loading skin C:\jamstix3\data\skin
<3256><12.5> LSK: Fixed Img
<3256><12.9> LSK: Sound Img
<3256><13.3> LSK: Icons
<3256><13.4> LSK: Iterate
<3256><16.6> LSK: Main GUI UIA
<3256><16.6> LSK: Sub GUI UIA
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks_big.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_mindyn.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_statusleds.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_brain_frame.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_menu_norm.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_bareditor_labels.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks_gold.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks_gold.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks_gold.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_knobticks_gold.bmp
<3256><16.6> Image with 0_menu_norm.bmp
<3256><16.6> GUI Initialized
<7084><16.7> STATUS: tMem=4194 fMem=4194 tID=7084@2 LOD OL:0 MX:0 TO:2 [hStop]
<7084><21.7> STATUS: tMem=4194 fMem=4194 tID=7084@2 LOD OL:0 MX:0 TO:2 [hStop]
<7084><26.8> STATUS: tMem=4194 fMem=4194 tID=7084@2 LOD OL:0 MX:0 TO:2 [h

Here's rzdlog.txt_1 from several minutes later:

<5428><0.0> 10/23/2010 10:55:51 AM
<5428><0.0> Jamstix 3.1 Beta 5
<5428><0.0> Host: FX Teleport Server
<5428><0.0> Data: C:\jamstix3\data
<5428><0.0> Plugin: c:\windows\vst plug-ins\Jamstix 3\
<5428><0.0> Cores: 4/15
<5428><0.0> Thread ID: 5428
<5428><0.0> Bar Offset (A): 0
<5428><0.0> Bar Offset (V): 0
<5428><0.0> Output Latency: 0
<5428><0.0> Input Latency: 0
<5428><0.0> Inputs: 0
<5428><0.0> Outputs: 16
<5428><0.0> Log Flush: 0
<5428><0.0> audioM8 Mapping
<5428><0.0> JS1:
<5428><0.0> JS2:
<5428><0.0> Creating LoD Event
<5428><0.0> Creating WaveStore
<5428><0.0> Creating LoD Thread P=3 ST:0
<5428><0.0> ID=4996
<5428><0.0> Scanning sounds
<5428><0.2> Scan sounds: 692/0/0
<5428><0.2> Creating Editor
<5428><0.3> Plug Init Done
<5428><0.3> LoD Thread Active
<5428><0.3> Plugin is shutting down...
<5428><0.3> Kill GUI...
<5428><0.3> PAB-KG...
<5428><0.3> WS Load Thread...
<5428><0.3> ...LoD termination...
<5428><0.3> ...mixer removal...
<5428><0.3> ...kit removal...
<5428><0.3> ...unload VSTi...
<5428><0.3> ...unload kit elements...
<5428><0.3> ...unload generators...
<5428><0.3> ...unload MIDI event buffer...
<5428><0.3> ...unload host events...
<5428><0.3> ...song object removal...
<5428><0.3> ...wavestore removal...
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] WS Sound Removal...
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] FSnd Wave Iteration...
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] IsClosing -1
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] FSnd Done
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] WS LoD Cleanup...
<5428><0.3> PPQ:0 1:0:0 [0] WS Structure Cleanup...
<5428><0.4> ...done

Hope this helps. I figured you would want the most recent log, which seems to be the one from the crash.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna check that out...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has there been a solve for this song saving issue in Sonar 8.5 x64? I am also unable to save. Also does JS3 retain song settings without saving a song like JS2?[/img]
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're still looking into this.

Saving a Sonar project saves the JS3 state so there is no need to manually save within Jamstix.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the impression that bitbridge is not playing nicely with JS3 because the error message is bit brdge related. Will these issues go away with Sonar X1?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're still trying to duplicate the problem. Our Win64 machines don't produce this behavior. But we are investigating...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update; I tried running Beta 9, with the changes to the .ini file you mentioned, but I'm still getting the same behavior. Thought you might want to know.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please send me rzdlog.txt from My Documents\Jamstix3 and jamstix3.ini
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

munmun wrote:
I get the impression that bitbridge is not playing nicely with JS3 because the error message is bit brdge related. Will these issues go away with Sonar X1?
I'd like to know the answer to that one as well!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here's the log:

<10056><0.0> 12/15/2010 7:13:25 PM
<10056><0.0> Jamstix 3.1 Beta 9
<10056><0.0> Host: FX Teleport Server
<10056><0.0> Data: C:\jamstix3\data
<10056><0.0> Plugin: c:\windows\vst plug-ins\Jamstix 3\
<10056><0.0> Cores: 4/15
<10056><0.0> Thread ID: 10056
<10056><0.0> Bar Offset (A): 0
<10056><0.0> Bar Offset (V): 0
<10056><0.0> Output Latency: 0
<10056><0.0> Input Latency: 0
<10056><0.0> Inputs: 0
<10056><0.0> Outputs: 16
<10056><0.0> Log Flush: 0
<10056><0.0> audioM8 Mapping
<10056><0.0> JS1:
<10056><0.0> JS2:
<10056><0.0> Creating LoD Event
<10056><0.0> Creating WaveStore
<10056><0.0> Creating LoD Thread P=3 ST:0
<10056><0.0> ID=9752
<10056><0.0> Scanning sounds
<10056><0.2> Scan sounds: 692/0/0
<10056><0.2> Creating Editor
<10056><0.2> Plug Init Done
<10056><0.2> LoD Thread Active
<8900><0.8> STATUS: tMem=4194 fMem=4194 tID=8900@2 LOD OL:0 MX:0 TO:0 [hStop]
<8900><1.2> IFACE BPM:120 TS:4/4 PPQ:0 SR:44100 BS:128
<10056><1.3> GUI Request
<10056><1.3> GUI CREATION
<10056><1.4> GUI Init Started (Thread ID=10056)
<10056><1.4> Loading skin C:\jamstix3\data\skin
<10056><1.4> LSK: Fixed Img
<10056><1.5> LSK: Sound Img
<10056><1.7> LSK: Icons
<10056><1.7> LSK: Iterate
<10056><2.2> LSK: Main GUI UIA
<10056><2.2> LSK: Sub GUI UIA

And here's the .ini:

[DLL]
PATH=c:\windows\vst plug-ins\Jamstix 3
VERSION=3.1 Beta 9

[DATA]
PATH=C:\jamstix3\data

Thanks for all the support. I'm sure it's a lot of work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

docatlas, please send me jamstix3.ini from the folder where the DLL is.
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