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chris Jammer

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Questions about Manual Mode |
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So .. decided to dig into manual mode in the hope of trying to get a better understanding of it .. I'm using Tracktion and FLStudio:
- Imported a midi drum phrase on the Rhythm tab - the phrase is one of the 4-bar ones from prosonic. I first notice that I often get 4 different rhythms, but sometimes with some other 4-bar phrases i get 5 rhythms instead - with the last one being silent. Any ideas?
- Okay. I make an arrangement of 8 bars of various rhythms, then get the host to play through the 8-bars. Then I export it - I always seem to get the little dialogue that says I'd need to play through the arrangement first - either this always happens, or for some reason jamstix thinks I haven't played through it. Is the first true ? Or are there any ideas?
- I then export to midi file - after enabling midi output. Usually the midi file i end up with is longer than 8 bars - sometimes way longer (though only the first 8 bars and sometimes the first 9 bars ever turn pink in the arrangement). On Tracktion there is frequently a large 8/9 bar gap before the midi file actually contains any notes whatsoever. Any ideas?
- Lastly, I'm not sure how the master volume variance and the volume variance for each individual drum interact. Is it a cumulative thing? Or two multiplying factors?
Actually - after all that the end result drum track is quite usable - though it takes a lot of fiddling with to get around all of the above. I especially dont like the random element to how many bars i end up getting out of the midi-export.
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Questions about Manual Mode |
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| chris wrote: | I first notice that I often get 4 different rhythms, but sometimes with some other 4-bar phrases i get 5 rhythms instead - with the last one being silent. Any ideas?
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This can happen as a result of internal quantization of the import.
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Then I export it - I always seem to get the little dialogue that says I'd need to play through the arrangement first - either this always happens, or for some reason jamstix thinks I haven't played through it.
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JS always shows that message.
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- I then export to midi file - after enabling midi output. Usually the midi file i end up with is longer than 8 bars - sometimes way longer (though only the first 8 bars and sometimes the first 9 bars ever turn pink in the arrangement). On Tracktion there is frequently a large 8/9 bar gap before the midi file actually contains any notes whatsoever. Any ideas?
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That is odd. I recommend playing the song all the way from the beginning to the end and then trying export again. If you continue to have this issue, please send me a FXB file (Save Bank in Tracktion) of the Jamstix state to support[at]rayzoon.com, referencing this thread.
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- Lastly, I'm not sure how the master volume variance and the volume variance for each individual drum interact. Is it a cumulative thing? Or two multiplying factors?
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The global velocity variance affects all sounds but the kick, snare, and hihat/ride variances are controlled by their own sliders in the rhythm tab.
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Actually - after all that the end result drum track is quite usable - though it takes a lot of fiddling with to get around all of the above. I especially dont like the random element to how many bars i end up getting out of the midi-export.
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I hear you. The good news is that we are improving the MIDI export in Jamstix 2. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com |
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chris Jammer

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help Ralph - good quick response during the holiday season!
Anyway, I sent the support address an email with a problem that appears to be partially related to the gapped midi file.
I notice that jamstix doesn't load 'all at once' in tracktion. Sometimes the sounds are only loaded - and the plugin initialised once I press on the output tab. Before this I get no output from the plugin, and the plugin won't pickup the timing from the host.
I am wondering if the gapped midi files were a result of what seems to be jamstix not clearing things down properly when the arrangement is cleared down + the problem in the last paragraph. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I got your mail, will check things out and get back to you. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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