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bigtrex1976
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: New to JamStix Need help Reply with quote

Okay so i haven't bought what looks to be an awesome product and here is why

I have Cubase SX3
BFD
Win XP

now i downloaded the demo and i cannot get any sound out of it.
I tried using it with BFD....i used the free quickstart manual and to my eyes i set everything up correctly......but maybe not.........i'm very interested in the product but i'm bummed the deom won't do any thing but blink with some lights

i'd love to be guided or informed what it is i'm doing wrong

thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly, I'd be inclined to take BFD out of the equation - that's one less thing for you to get wrong Smile .

Just set up Jamstix using it's internal sounds and see where that gets you. If you still hear nothing, then you'll have to go through your routing, etc.

One thing is for sure - the demo will most certainly work - as it has for many others.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rex, please follow these steps:

- open new Cubase project
- load Jamstix demo into VST instrument rack
- click 'Free Jam'
- press Play in Cubase

After a few beats, Jamstix should start playing a groove.
Tell me if you can get this far.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey bud
i followed the simple instructions and no go.......not sure what to do

new project
open VST inst. window
jamstix
freejam
hit play in cubase
2 min into the thing nada

rex
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please send me the file rzdlog.txt from your Jamstix demo folder to support[at]rayzoon.com.

Also, when you press play in Cubase, do the bar/beat counters in Jamstix advance? Are there any blinking red LEDs in the bottom part of Jamstix?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey man
actually the lights are blinking and it looks as if it is running just no sound

on the midi side of it i have midi out set to Jamstix as if it as just another plug in

as far as the rzdldog.txt what exactly is that
i'll seatch it and send it asap

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should NOT be any lights blinking. Please make sure that the checkbox under 'Jams Start/Stop' in the jam tab is not checked (must be black).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as you said
and still nothing

the bars and beats are moving in jamstix but no sound

i'm bummed
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay so check this
now i went to Mapping
Load
BFD medium power

and sound came about

BUT i do NOT have BFD selected in the VST inst. BFD is NOT on so what sounds is it using...............????

What is the correct way for it to trigger BFD??
i have some great sounding kits but i really like the features i see in Jamstix for the grooves and such???


>>still not sure how it work by choosing BFD when it is not even on??

thanks
looking foward to hearing i'm really interested

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you did when you told Jamstix to load that kit was actually load a BFD kit into BFD within Jamstix - which can function as a VST host.

If you want to work with BFD externally you need to load BFD into another virtual instrument slot.

If you are driving BFD externally, check "Midi Out Only" on the Jamstix mapping page and (in Cubase) route the output of Jamstix to the input of the midi channel which is driving BFD.

If you want to work with Jamstix on its own (internal samples), load the default kit on the mapping page and make sure you have the Jamstix channel selected in Cubase project page - the red record light or the brown monitor light must be lit to hear any output.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok it's coming around a bit..........i see when it's just jamstix it's triggering a (?) kit from bfd


now i got it to use my BFD kit but some how no snare???

sprry for all the questions but i don't think i've ever had these kinda problems in the digital domain til now??


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok it's coming around a bit..........i see when it's just jamstix it's triggering a (?) kit from bfd


now i got it to use my BFD kit but some how no snare???

sprry for all the questions but i don't think i've ever had these kinda problems in the digital domain til now??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigtrex1976 wrote:
now i got it to use my BFD kit but some how no snare???

You should be able to access the BFD GUI from within Jamstix if that's the way you are working - if there is no snare sound, either the samples aren't loaded or the mapping in not correct to trigger the samples.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigtrex, we now have two issues so let's keep them separate:

a) No internal sounds.

Please locate your 'rzdlog.txt' file (should be in the 'Jamstix Demo' folder) and send it support[at]rayzoon.com.

b) BFD Snare Missing

Set Jamstix to 'Manual Jam', go to the rhythm tab, click 'Load' and select 'Rock Basic I', go to the mapping tab and load the 'BFD Set 1' through 'BFD Set 4' mappings and see if the snare is missing in all of them. Remember that it takes some time for BFD to load all its samples so watch the HDD light.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okey i did exactly as you instructed and no snare in BFD...BFD is completely loaded, and everything is hitting but the snare

on the MIDI channel i have JAMstix on midi IN and BFD on MIDI out

also I tried this without BFD on and followed instructions and no snare


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