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paspallum · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: Finger Twirls

Ralph
Last night I was watching ROCKSTAR Supernova on TV... that band... 'The Houseband'..... Really are the 'business'... they are just so good.

I noticed that the drummer was twirling his sticks (both left and right) between hits... he seemed to be using this as a timing thing to help lay back the groove... he was twirling them and throwing them and catching them again between vital hits on the snare, toms or crash...

Ralph will Jamstix 2 have a function to 'twirl' the sticks?

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ECC83 · Jammer Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 27

I think this is an essential feature, no drum instrument can claim any degree of realism unless there is stick twirling.

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

We have a prototype of Jamstix that uses stick twirling but it's not ready for release because it sometimes loses the stick which can hit the CPU fan or knock a RAM module out of a slot. Rest assured we're working it... Cool

Seriously though: the twirling is purely show and has nothing to do with timing. Watch the 'Thomas Lang' DVD on detailed demonstration of this.
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paspallum · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: twirlers

It sure does show a lot of control over the drumset... when a drummer can do such tricks with the sticks.... it's hard enough to play drums on time... then to play with feel (harder again!)...... and THEN to be able to do that kinda stuff as well as playing on time and with feel..... it's very impressive!

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THERAKED1 · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject:

Now I'm scared, if JS can twirl the sticks, what's next? Is JS going to run away with mygirlfriend and make a video that everyone can download off ther internet? My heart can't take that again!
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archon · Junior Jammer Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 15

ever seen Keith Moon play?? = WOW!

check out the rolling stone's rock and roll circus = the who play a blinder and moon does very little else except twirl sticks, lean backwards, dismantle his kit and hit every tom and cymbal he has every couple of seconds! should incorporate his facial expressions into jamstic too Razz

id love to get jamstix to sound like bonzo and moon (and mitch mitchell....and ian paice....and john densmore....and ginger baker.....oh and lars ulrich!!)

i can get pretty close with bonzo (simple and heavy) and moon seems to be about massive amounts of toms and cymbals, densmore is jazzy and soft with lots of odd fills.

but = im not a drummer so waddoino?

moon's kit seems really bizarre - doesnt look like your "standard" kit
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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

We are working on 'drummer personalities' for Jamstix 2.
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archon · Junior Jammer Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 15

really?!?!? = supacool! Very Happy

man i would pay for you to put Keith Moon at the top of your list !!

and could you add Mr Ward from Black Sabbath also (the beat and fills on NIB and at the end of behind the wall of sleep send shivers down my spine.)

seriously = this is an INCREDIBLY amazingly awesome idea dood!
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paspallum · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: Yeah

Archon
You are right dude! Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon and I'd have to add Ringo Starr.. great feel....great styles....

If JS2 is going to have 'personalitys' ... cvan we please have a very laid back hippie cat? for slow 70's Neil Young and CSNY type folk rock?

Dallas Talyor (CSNY) had great timing and feel.

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Aph · Jammer Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 26

paspallum · Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: I'm Hearin' ya!

Aph
Yeah... me (as a guitarist) mostly used to have to put up with drummers forgetting to make the change (or playing the wrong part) even after they've taken 20 minutes to write the arrangement all down... and then ask "Oh, is there a change there or something?"

But the worst thing is they take 1 and a half hours to set up the kit and have to stop and hour early to 'break down' the kit and load their car again!!!

I'd rather wait the 5 minutes that it takes to boot the computer...start up Cubase and open Jamstix....

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russellkeys · Jam Meister Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 65

What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?

Homeless!