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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Addictive Drums / jamstix mixed kit Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

The manual says:

" What’s more, you can even combine Jamstix sounds and an external drum module to form a mixed kit. For example, you can combine Jamstix cymbals and percussion sounds with an EZDrummer™ kit. Imagine the possibilities!"

Unfortunately I couldn't find any other information about that in the manual. How can I exactly get mixed kits (I'm using Jamstisx3.5, reaper 4.32 and Addictive Drums)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found! (sorry)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me know if you need any further help on this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello:

That is my first post, so I say hello to Jamstix users.

I will use this thread because my question is related to the title:

I load JS as instrument, without track. Then I load AD with a track, where I set JS as input. So I can fire AD sounds from JS and record the midi on the AD track. But, if I use a mixed kit (AD+JS) to create the song within JS, what should I do to get a midi track with the sounds of JS?

I suppose I can create a new track with JS as instrument and record the midi from the "master" JS too (as with AD), but I don't know if there is another simpler solution.

I ask that, because my intention was to have midi tracks for AD and JS (used as kit), turning off the JS where I have created the song. If I do not have the midi tracks, I get no sound in the mixdown with my project (Cubase).


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the board, Knopf!
Is your goal to avoid using AD and Jamstix "live" in your project during mixdown? I'm trying to understand why you need the MIDI tracks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ralph:

Yes, my goal is to avoid using them live, not because I don't like this option, but due to the following: when I make a recording with various instruments, mix them and then make the mixdown, I don't hear the drums if I don't have the midi track for AD. So I would like to have in the mixdown the sounds of AD and JS, that are present in the mixed kit (AD+JS) that I load when I create the song within JS. There is another simpler way, maybe.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixdown should be no different than when working the song. Please place a dummy MIDI event in the Jamstix MIDI track in Cubase at bar 600 or so to force Cubase to use JS during mixdown.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, with this JS track you mean another instance of JS as drum module or the same JS where I created the song? That is my question, actually, if I need or nor to load another JS as drum module with its own track. When I load JS to create the song, I don't create a track for it. Should I do it, you mean?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, create a MIDI track for JS so you can control the mixdown behavior.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph: I will try that and write here what happens. Thank you. So as I understand, I will create a midi track for the "main" JS (the one with the song) and I will not open another JS as drum modul.

I forgot to mention the other reason to have a midi track for AD: when I create this track with JS as input and AD as output, the sounds of AD are heard only when I SELECT this track with the mouse. But, if I select for example the bass track, AD doesn't sound. Is there a way to make AD sound without having the midi in the track?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure monitoring is on in the host for the JS track and you should be hearing AD sound all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehm. Yes, monitoring was the key... But I need to activate monitoring in the AD track (not JS) to hear the AD sounds, independently of the selected track. Thank you.

And after many tests I can have now a mixdown with AD and JS sounds, without having a track for JS and without recording the midi track for AD. I can't understand why it could not work before.

I think, only if manual edition of midi were required, I would need to open a second JS as drum module with its own track and the same for AD. After recording the tracks the first JS should be turned off).

Thank you for your help, Ralph.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need for a second instance. If you need to add MIDI manually, place it in the JS MIDI track and make sure 'MIDI Play In Jam' is checked in the JS Options.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Understood. I will try that, too.

Thank you again,
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