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acabreira
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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:16 am Post subject: Strange MIDI out |
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Hi, Ralph
Something strange happens when I use MIDI out when ´Time Sig Changes´ is not engaged, it sort of quantizes the output in 16ths, although the time variance remains. I´m using it in a song that does not use time signature changes. I have ´MIDI OUT only´ marked. Is this a bug?
And also, as I´m not using the internal JS sound engine, does it make any difference in terms of CPU usage enabling/disabling ´Time Sig Changes´? I can´t see any difference myself. I´m using 1.71 version.
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Ralph [RZ]
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Disabling 'Time Sig Changes' helps with certain hosts when JS is used in a loop. It has no effect on CPU usage.
I'll look into the MIDI output...
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acabreira
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: |
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No problem, Ralph, at least the workaround doesn´t impact performance at all.
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acabreira
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Ops, I found another problem now, Ralph. There are many snare and tom accents that don´t play anymore, altough they are selected manually and appear marked in the arrangement tab. The accents have no restrictions in complextity and funkiness, and in some bars no accents play at all. They worked fine in previous JS versions, but I can´t recall which one I was using when it was working, as I use every new update available.
Also I find it strange that no matter I´m using MIDI-Out only, the ´sounds´options in the mappings tab still appear and they seem to be loading samples every time I change one of them,. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| acabreira wrote: | There are many snare and tom accents that don´t play anymore, altough they are selected manually and appear marked in the arrangement tab.
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Can you tell me an example accent and could you also send me a FXB with this problem to support[at]rayzoon.com?
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mbncp
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I also just looked at the MIDI output on 2 different host and get weird results (timestamps).
| Code: | 3004 53613578 70658 01 0185 99 000 049 000 000000 000 000000 5561.000000
3004 53613609 70665 01 0247 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 7415.000000
3004 53613703 70680 01 0000 99 000 091 000 000000 000 000000 11008.000000
3004 53613734 70687 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 12800.000000
3004 53613828 70701 01 0000 99 000 049 000 000000 000 000000 16384.000000
3004 53613859 70708 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 18176.000000
3004 53613937 70722 01 0000 99 000 127 000 000000 000 000000 21760.000000
3004 53613984 70729 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 23552.000000
3004 53614062 70743 01 0000 99 000 055 000 000000 000 000000 27136.000000
3004 53614109 70750 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 28928.000000
3004 53614187 70764 01 0084 99 000 126 000 000000 000 000000 32596.000000
3004 53614187 70764 02 0084 99 000 099 000 000000 000 000000 32596.000000
3004 53614234 70771 01 0145 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 34449.000000
3004 53614234 70771 02 0145 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 34449.000000
3004 53614312 70786 01 0000 99 000 050 000 000000 000 000000 38144.000000
3004 53614359 70793 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 39936.000000
3004 53614437 70807 01 0000 99 000 126 000 000000 000 000000 43520.000000
3004 53614484 70814 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 45312.000000
3004 53614562 70828 01 0000 99 000 050 000 000000 000 000000 48896.000000
3004 53614593 70835 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 50688.000000
3004 53614687 70849 01 0000 99 000 127 000 000000 000 000000 54272.000000
3004 53614687 70849 02 0000 99 000 092 000 000000 000 000000 54272.000000
3004 53614718 70856 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 56064.000000
3004 53614718 70856 02 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 56064.000000
3004 53614796 70870 01 0000 99 000 051 000 000000 000 000000 59648.000000
3004 53614843 70877 01 0044 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 61484.000000
3004 53614921 70891 01 0167 99 000 127 000 000000 000 000000 65191.000000
3004 53614968 70898 01 0229 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 67045.000000
3004 53615046 70913 01 0000 99 000 127 000 000000 000 000000 70656.000000
3004 53615046 70913 02 0000 99 000 055 000 000000 000 000000 70656.000000
3004 53615093 70920 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 72448.000000
3004 53615093 70920 02 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 72448.000000
3004 53615171 70934 01 0000 99 000 099 000 000000 000 000000 76032.000000
3004 53615218 70941 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 77824.000000
3004 53615296 70955 01 0000 99 000 053 000 000000 000 000000 81408.000000
3004 53615343 70962 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 83200.000000
3004 53615421 70976 01 0000 99 000 123 000 000000 000 000000 86784.000000
3004 53615421 70976 02 0000 99 000 127 000 000000 000 000000 86784.000000
3004 53615453 70983 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 88576.000000
3004 53615453 70983 02 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 88576.000000
3004 53615546 70997 01 0066 99 000 048 000 000000 000 000000 92226.000000
3004 53615578 71004 01 0128 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 94080.000000
3004 53615656 71018 01 0250 99 000 095 000 000000 000 000000 97786.000000
3004 53615703 71026 01 0000 89 000 000 000 000000 000 000000 99584.000000
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The Timestamp is the fifth column, using a buffer of 256 samples, and I see far too many zeros for the timestamp value. (tempo = 122).
Using keyword jam, 16th rock.
Checking timesig change doesn't change anything.
I tested in VSTHost and eXT, having identical results.
In Cubase all timestamps are set to zero, but this is due to the fact that Cubase 4 doesn't route VST-MIDI plugs correctly, and ends most of the time sending the MIDI from plug to plug at the beginning of the next buffer (holy crap).
Btw, how is Sonar 6 behaving in this situation, are the timestamp preserved ?
marc |
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acabreira
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, I solved my problem, there were some ´accent supression´ values in some fills that were blocking accents next bars, but originally I haven´t put them as it worked before. Anyway it works now.
Mbncp, I´ve had some problems with MIDI out also, so I recommend subhosting always when possible. Sorry if I can´t help. |
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