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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Tapsa! You should have your order by now.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC it was either the Line 6 or the Ableton forum.

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard about it in Cakewalks SONAR forum. Bought the whole shebang.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KVR Audio for me. Its amazing how much purchasing power that site wields these days.......
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Cakewalk Sonar forum Reply with quote

In the Cakewalk sonar forum. You, and Jamstix, are highly praised there. Most recently, by me, today, in fact.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Where did I hear... Reply with quote

I thought it was in a magazine review and clicked accordingly but then I remembered that I'd already bought it before I'd read the reviews. I actually think it might have been a forum somewhere.
I use Jamstix both as a jammer and as an arranger. When first writing or jamming with my computer (sad I know, but then I don't get enough time for my own music to get together with other people) I use free jam or keyword jam and then when I get down to business and have worked out some sort of arrangement get more selective and start to use the arranger. I find the supplied rhythms useful for inspiration but I almost always modify them to match them to a song - usually in a MIDI track recorded from output. Sometimes I'll use the MIDI import function to write a basic beat, (using fingers on keys) and then import into jamstix, I'm not yet completely comfortable with the method to specify rhythms (quarter, eighth, sixteenths etc.) although I can do it at a pinch. It doesn't copy my playing exactly (and is not meant to) but I find that what it does is usually great. Sort of as if I'd told a drummer to play 'boom chick, chick boom boom chick' and then let the drummer do their thing. THIS for me is the real value of the programme. I have programmed beats for years now and this process takes out the boring hack work of minutely programming fills etc. It's easier for me to take what Jamstix has produced and edit afterwards than to have to play (or click-enter) every note.
It really is like a collaborator, when I use loops the process is a lot less organic and a lot less human and when the groove features arrive in verison 2 I'll be in clover. Currently I've been ignoring the groove side of drumming or occasionally editing by hand to, for example, drag the snare in the verses and rush them in the chorus and fills but templates will speed this no end!
Oh, one other thing I LOVE, is the hi-hat intelligence. I've been using all sorts of tricks to get the excitement of a drummer hitting harder or looser in the past but the use of half-open, foot and fully open just sounds real.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the net

www.audiofanzine.fr , on the forum of this a french fanzine about music
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

n-Track Studio Forum here!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about Jamstix at the Digitech GNX4 website.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about jamstix like seb.petit1 on audiofanzine's forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about it on the Line6 forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I initially heard about it on the Cubase forum and have to admit I was highly dubious at first. I finally ended up trying it myself after watching the videos plus reading a comment from someone at Fxpansion (the BFD people) concerning Jamstix' quality. After trying it I was totally sold. The problem was/is that applications such as Groove Agent, which only have a few pre-programmed midi grooves, make similar claims to Jamstix in terms of realism. For some reason you get the impression that products from the big companies are the "state of the art". Hence when some product appears from a relatively unknown developer, with perhaps a less stylish GUI, and the only recommendation you have to go on is the opinion of some member(s) of an internet forum somewhere it is easy to be dismissive.

Some possible marketing issues for Jamstix then could be:
1. Creating trust in the developer. With the likes of SynthEdit being available anyone can play around for a while, pop out a synth and proclaim themselves a VST developer. With the VST SDK being freely downloadable anyone with a modicum of C++/Delphi programming knowledge can likewise do the same. Its for this reason that DigiDesign do not make their SDK freely available. If a plugin exists for the Pro Tools platform you can be assured of its quality as there is a rigid application process the developer must go through first. The same can't be said for VST plugins. I actually like the VST approach but the quality issue remains. Personally I think Ralph is an absolute genius, and with the unbelievably good support he offers plus the undeniable quality of Jamstix I believe he is doing all the right things in terms of creating trust in the VST community.

2. The GUI. This is totally superficial I realise but how many times have people (often mistakenly!) equated an upmarket appearance with similarly upmarket audio performance? With stylish looking products the impression is if the developer has put that much effort into its GUI, imagine how much blood, sweat and tears went into coding/refining its audio side(!). I read a review of the Wave Arts version 4 plugins in Mix magazine (I think??) where the reviewer concluded by saying the GUI let the plugins down, and an improvement in that area would result in more sales. I don't mind the Jamstix GUI having used it, but my initial impression was perhaps less than favourable. It was one of the reasons I hesitated in trying it. Same with Voxengo plugins.

3. The need for trusted reviews. I always read up as much as possible about products before even demoing them. As I said earlier if all you have to go on is the excited comments from an internet forum user it is easy to be dismissive. Everyone knows some forum members get excited about plugins that really are rather average. The same unfortunately is true for some online reviews. If they say nothing negative at all about a product (heck, nothings perfect!) and simply gush about how good something is I tend to disregard the review in its entirety. The positive comments from the person from Fxpansion on the Cubase forum certainly contributed to my decision to try Jamstix.

Please note this is all simply my opinion! I love Jamstix, totally appreciate Ralph's superb support and wish him every success.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was searching some Vsti on e-Mule Embarassed and I have found JS in the list ...
After a couple of try I grab the JS demo and few days later I have purchased the best VSTi in the world ! Very Happy
No regrets ... Thanks a lot Ralph for this really incredible virtual drummer.
Just one wish : a better GUI with more logic. I think that it's the weak point of JS.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mekanik! The GUI is being completely overhauled in Jamstix 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard about JS at KVR forums long time ago. I did my research (dl'ed demo, listened to demo tunes, listened to other KVRers' music featuring jamstix) and then I bought it (about two weeks ago).
I'm discovering new cool things everyday and the more I play with it the more I love it. I'm also glad that a few minor issues will be addressed in JS2.

Great product Ralph!

Cheers to all jamstixers. Cool

btw if anyone want to check my first track using JS can go here :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150004&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

it's a jam I did with my 5 yr old son on vocals Shocked . Did pretty well @KVR ( ... 3 pages of comments)
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