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Who would want snare ACCENTS like Fills?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Who would want snare ACCENTS like Fills? Reply with quote

Hi Jammers
I personally like the accents for the snare rather than using a fill... I feel that they sound more like a drummer... and more subtle...

I know thay can be inserted into an arrangement... but it is tricky and a bit of a task...

I myself would like to see these accents available to be used much the same way as how we can use a Fill or Intro now...

You could just click on the pattern in the arrange TAB and select an accent and add it....simple (yeah ok... I know... I don't have to write the code!)

Are there any other Jammers out there who would be intersted or use this function??

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am! Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very good idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me to if its not to musch work
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do it on your own without too much work: copy the snare *.raf files which are in the \jamstix\accents folder to another place; rename them to something easy to identify later, like adding an ´F´ in the beggining of the name (you don´t even have to rename them, but I believe they´ll be easier to locate in the fills list); open the files in a text editor and where is written ´Type=Snare´, change to ´Type=Fill'; add a ´0´ in the end of ID numbers (just a suggestion, rule is that no two accents can share ID number); save them and place them in the \jamstix\folder (don´t change their extension).

If you do that, next time you open Jamstix you´ll have fills that are versions of the snare accents. You can do the same with toms accents. Well, you might find it too much work, but you just have to do it once, and snare accents aren´t these much (30 more or less). I haven´t done this yet cause I don´t care using snare accents in the rhythm tab.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very good idea! Thanks for sharing! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ACabreira, I like your editor very much. Is there any way to program quarter triplets or eight triplets in the drum editor? Maybe writing them by hand....

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you mark in a panel (kick, snare, etc) 1st row-1st event / 2nd row-3rd event / 2nd row-5th event then you have a quarter triplet. You see, whenever you have three events separate by 8 ticks you´ll have one quarter triplet.

Marking three consecutive events in the 2nd row of any panel gives you eight triplets.

Please correct me if I´m wrong, I´ve never been too good with notation Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, to know the distace betwee notes you have to divide all the notes in one measure by the number of beats in that measure (in this case:4), so 16th= 16/4=4 Very Happy There are 12 eight triplets in one measure, so: 12/4=3. To write eight triplets the notes should be:0,3,6,9... But When I write these numbers in the text editor they disappear. I think there´s a little bug too, if I write two fills, I got a message from cubase sx wich says: the second fill is assigned to the first one. Does it happen to anyone? Thank you.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prosodio wrote:
Hi, to know the distace betwee notes you have to divide all the notes in one measure by the number of beats in that measure (in this case:4), so 16th= 16/4=4 Very Happy There are 12 eight triplets in one measure, so: 12/4=3. To write eight triplets the notes should be:0,3,6,9... But When I write these numbers in the text editor they disappear.

Technically, an eighth triplet refers to a cluster of 3 notes that span the length of a quarter note. In a 4/4 rhythm at 48 ticks resolution, where a quarter note has 12 ticks, this means that the triplet notes are placed at 0,4,8
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand, resolution is the key.... but I´m unable to change it. And the other thing I asked to Acabreira about saving different fills and when I start cubase it shows a message "fill nº2 is directed to fill nº1" so both fills become the same. Did it happen to you, Raph? Sorry, I don´t pretend to seem a heavy guy, but just waiting to a midi-to-raf feature (maybe jamstix2...) and Acabreira´s program is close to what I want.

Thanks for your kind answers, Ralph

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Fill is directed to fill" sounds odd. Please take a screenshot of the error and send it to support[at]rayzoon.com or write down the exact wording.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Ralph, I was doing wrong, I was saving raf and jac files only with a name user, deleting ID30000, ID30001.... Now it works nice.

Thanks again
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prosodio wrote:
I understand, resolution is the key.... but I´m unable to change it. And the other thing I asked to Acabreira about saving different fills and when I start cubase it shows a message "fill nº2 is directed to fill nº1" so both fills become the same. Did it happen to you, Raph? Sorry, I don´t pretend to seem a heavy guy, but just waiting to a midi-to-raf feature (maybe jamstix2...) and Acabreira´s program is close to what I want.


Resolution of the fills are set to 96 by JAC, and, although you can use 48 in .raf files, I have seen no reason to give such option. So quarter notes have a lengh of 24 ticks, eight notes of 12, and the respective triplets of 16 and 8 (* 2/3 that is the ratio of a triplet).

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Sorry Ralph, I was doing wrong, I was saving raf and jac files only with a name user, deleting ID30000, ID30001.... Now it works nice.


Saving two fills with the same name? Didn't it ask you to overwrite?
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