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tombuur
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In Sonar. I wanted Sonar to take care of vst's, after all trusting its own convert er most. Then I tested if Directixer could take care of jamstix which is the only thing I need it for so far. Now all vst's except jamstix are gone when I start Sonar.
EDIT: I did remove Sonar 4 with the Sonar 4 vst converter during the last 24 hours. Need to check if that has something to do with the missing vst's. Actually, ran Norton SystemWorks that removed a lot of Converter 4 registry entries that it found were not needed. Hmmmm.
EDIT 2: Just un- and reinstalled Sonar 5. Now vst's work. It proves I deleted the VST Converter 4 which caused the trouble. Well, they tell you Sonar 5 has integrated VST support, so you don't expect a stand-alone program to take care of it, particularly not one called Converter 4 which you would think belongs to the previous Sonar version. |
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Glad it's worked out.
I'm also glad I never uninstalled any Sonar version 
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oconnor
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: Sonar 5 and midi-out -- still need Directixer to route midi? |
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quick question, from a 12-hour newbie so RTFM is an appropriate reply. i'm trying to get Jamstix to be the input to a hardware synth and it doesn't show up as a midi-input option when i go to the midi track for that synth. perhaps that wrapper isn't smart about the output side of things and i still need to run Directizer? or (egad) perhaps i'm over looking something.  |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Sonar 5 and midi-out -- still need Directixer to route m |
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| oconnor wrote: | | quick question, from a 12-hour newbie so RTFM is an appropriate reply. i'm trying to get Jamstix to be the input to a hardware synth and it doesn't show up as a midi-input option when i go to the midi track for that synth. perhaps that wrapper isn't smart about the output side of things and i still need to run Directizer? or (egad) perhaps i'm over looking something. |
I generally try to never say RTFM (I do think though this is covered in the 'Free Jam Quick Start' PDF, not 100% sure right now)
Sonar and its VST wrapper do not support VSTi MIDI output. You need to use DirectiXer and its loopback driver. You will then see a button (Send MIDI to host or something like that) in the frame around Jamstix within Sonar. Press this button and all MIDI output from Jamstix is routed to the 'DirectiXer Loopback' MIDI port. You can then assign that port as the input of the MIDI track that feeds your HW synth.
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Petrov
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I found this site today (thru the Harmony-Central msg boards) and I'm just blown away by what I've read and heard of JamStix. I'm itching to race home and start trying out the demo.
I do have a couple of questions related to Sonar/JamStix:
I'm currently using Sonar 3.1.1 (Reading thru this thread I fell like I'm back in the stone ages. Heh. It's worked for my needs and I haven't seen a huge need to upgrade, yet.)
1. Without the DirectiXer VST wrapper what functionality do I not have accees to?
2. Should JamStix, in general, be compatible with Sonar 3?
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Petrov wrote: | 1. Without the DirectiXer VST wrapper what functionality do I not have accees to?
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It's the MIDI output. The Sonar VST wrapper does not support VSTi MIDI output, not even in Sonar 5PE. This isn't an issue unless you want to route the MIDI output of Jamstix to another drum module in realtime.
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2. Should JamStix, in general, be compatible with Sonar 3?
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Yes, it is.
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wolfbayne
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Sonar x64 & Jamstix w/BFD.
Okay, I reproduced this twice so far.
1. Add Jamstix to the Sonar project
2. Load the BFD all mapping in Jamstix
3. Load a kit in BFD
4. Select Free Jam with defaults
5. Arm and record a track in Sonar
Drums play uber fast. However, this behavior doesn't happen every time and I can't find the cause yet.
BTW, using X9-2.
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Is that with the VST wrapper or DirectiXer?
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wolfbayne
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VST Wrapper
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Ralph [RZ]
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Could you try the DirectiXer demo just to see if it's got anything to do with the wrapper?
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wolfbayne
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Sorry, my mistake. The x64 version of Sonar uses Bitbridge - not the VST Wrapper. So, I didn't use the VST Wrapper I used Bitbridge. Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, no 32 bit DirectX apps will work in this version ov Sonar.
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Honestly, it sounds like a VST timeinfo issue in the wrapper. We haven't looked into Sonar X64 at all at this point.
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wolfbayne
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting that this behavior isn't exhibited every time.
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Ralph [RZ]
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It is odd. Is it like a doubling of the speed and is it erratic?
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wolfbayne
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Yeah, like a doubling, not erratic.
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