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Gilles
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:05 am Post subject: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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Hello,
first let me say that I'm very thrilled by the potential of this plugin, and am really looking forward to getting the trial demo, not to mention that a hundred $ are already spared for it in my budget.
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Now, can you answer that :
- when you say that BFD or DFHKS users will be able to use Jamstix with their lib, does it mean that Jamstix will have kind of presets which "know" the mappings of the libs (DFHKS, that I use, is not GM) and so that no painful setup will be necessary ? It would be really great !
- which styles are covered by Jamstix ? I read somewhere else that 4-4, 3-4 and 6-8 would be recognized, ok, this is the meter... but the styles ?Apparently, from the demos, mainstream rock...but what jazz, blues, latin, funk, just to name the most common... ?
Thanks for those precisions ! |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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| Gilles wrote: | Hello,
- when you say that BFD or DFHKS users will be able to use Jamstix with their lib, does it mean that Jamstix will have kind of presets which "know" the mappings of the libs (DFHKS, that I use, is not GM) and so that no painful setup will be necessary ?
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Jamstix comes with various preset kits for DFHS and BFD, since these two are the current top-of-the-line drum VSTi. You can then use these presets and modify them (changing sounds etc.) without having to remap each key/sound and save them separately as additional preset kits.
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...but what jazz, blues, latin, funk, just to name the most common... ?
Thanks for those precisions ! |
The Jamstix free jam (which is not based on patterns but creates rhythms on-the-fly) is limited to the rock<->funk spectrum. However, you can overlay a latin snare style to color the results a bit with a latin brush.
The Jamstix key word jam can play latin, jazz and blues because it operates off the rhythm library, which comes with such rhythms. In addition, Jamstix allows you to edit/create rhythms so you can use the library defaults and quickly alter them to create more of a specific style. You can also import rhythms in GM layout from MIDI files.
Once released we will poll you guys to see what kind of rhythms you'd like to see increased in the library. We will then issue periodic rhythm packs as free downloads. Furthermore, you can share the rhythms you create in Jamstix with others so I suspect we will see some community effort as well.
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Gilles
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your reply.
Well, it seems great if I understood it right : rock and funk for real time generated drumming , and other genres, blues and jazz included, thanks to a built-in drum patterns library.
And midfile import as a bonus...
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Well, I can't wait !
One more question : the drum patterns in "Jamstix key word jam" library , are they "hard quantized"/programmed, or have thay been performed by a real drummer on pads, I mean with groove and attitude ? |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Gilles wrote: | | the drum patterns in "Jamstix key word jam" library , are they "hard quantized"/programmed, or have thay been performed by a real drummer on pads, I mean with groove and attitude ? |
Jamstix always tries to emulate a human drummer, whether it is in free jam or playing library rhythms. This means the realism of the play is not in the recorded pattern, it comes from the way Jamstix plays the instructions of the pattern. We're talking about things like dropping notes that cannot be played by a drummer at a certain moment in time due to two hands, variance in velocity, accents, sometimes dropping embellishing notes, responding to input velocity changes, switching between snare head and sidestick etc. etc. All of that is not in the pattern but in the 'brain' of Jamstix.
Once you get the Jamstix demo, open up the 'Rock Basic I' rhythm, which is your barebone simple kick 1,3 snare 2,4 rhythm, and let it play for a bit. You'll see what I mean.
In other words, even though many of the Jamstix library patterns were derived from an acoustic drummer, the 'groove' and 'attitude' are generated by the Jamstix 'brain'.
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Gilles
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Thanks again, Ralph, for those precisions.
Well, only ting left to say for me so far is, that JamStix is quite promising, and I'm now really eager to get te demo.
And if JamStix does what is described, well, the price of this plug is a unbeatable D-E-A-L |
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waran
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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| Quote: | | Once released we will poll you guys to see what kind of rhythms you'd like to see increased in the library. We will then issue periodic rhythm packs as free downloads. Furthermore, you can share the rhythms you create in Jamstix with others so I suspect we will see some community effort as well. |
Hey Ralph,
this almost sounds too nice to be true - free downloads?!? You mean it?
And - hehehe - come up with that first poll: You know what I'd love to hear! Odd rhythms - 5/4, 7/8, 11/8  I know you'll come up with these sooner or later 
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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this almost sounds too nice to be true - free downloads?!? You mean it?
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Sure do.
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Odd rhythms - 5/4, 7/8, 11/8 I know you'll come up with these sooner or later |
Well, this one will probably have to wait until after the JamBace module. We have a neat concept though and will continue to develop it. The core structure of Jamstix 1.0 is so 4/4-based that we decided to support odd signatures with a separate module (working title is Jamstix-Solo). More on that later this year...
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waran
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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| Quote: | | Well, this one will probably have to wait until after the JamBace module. |
This JamBace-thing sounds equally as interesting as JamStix itself.
It seems to me that this one should be even harder to code than the drum-module. How does it recognise chords if you use X7, X9 or even worse stuff like X4/7 and so on?
And what if I want certain notes played in the bass line?
Oh - I really start liking your business; you'd better open a JamBace-thread as well
I'd love to hear how this thing handles our (WARAN band) chord progressions, sometimes changing chords with every single note ...
This is promising, too. So I have decided I can wait for the odd meters
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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How does it recognise chords if you use X7, X9 or even worse stuff like X4/7 and so on?
And what if I want certain notes played in the bass line?
I'd love to hear how this thing handles our (WARAN band) chord progressions, sometimes changing chords with every single note ...
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We'll get into more details on JamBace as the projects matures. Let's just say for now that we have a really innovative approach to the issue of harmonic tracking for JamBace. It's all about emulating the way a bass player thinks...
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waran
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: One or two questions about Jamstix |
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| Quote: | | We'll get into more details on JamBace as the projects matures. Let's just say for now that we have a really innovative approach to the issue of harmonic tracking for JamBace. It's all about emulating the way a bass player thinks... |
Well - if you need someone to test it, let me know
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