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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Please use this thread to post solutions or work-arounds for any problems you may have encountered using Jamstix in Tracktion
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Munin · Junior Jammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 3

Well, I guess I'm the first to post here - maybe someone can help me out as I presume it's really just a stupid newbie issue or something.

I try to jam with my guitar along with JamStix in tracktion. Now the setup I have is that I use a M-Audio Firewire Solo, get the guitar in there and from there Tracktion picks up the input.

So I loaded the jamstix demo, I was very impressed with the demos.
But, how exactly do I make it 'respond' ? It does not seem to be interactive really. I have my guitar input on one track and put jamstix as a VSTi on another and press the record button.
And yes, Jamstix begins playing with a few fills etc every here and there, but it does not seem to respond to the velocity / loudness of my guitar playing...
And putting the guitar input on the same track as jamstix doesn't help either. So I am guessing it does not even pick up the guitar input.
So I'm kinda confused...how do I make it so jamstix actually 'responds'?

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Let me duplicate this in Tracktion...stay tuned.

By the way, did you go to the Jam tab in Jamstix and click on the "Free Jam" button?
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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Hi Munin,
Here are the steps to take to have an audio-jam with Jamstix in Tracktion:

- create a new track
- move the audio-in symbol on the left side of Tracktion so it points to the new track
- Click on the audio-in symbol and check the 'enable end-to-end' box so Tracktion feeds the audio signal continuously into the track
- Move 'new filter' into the track and select Jamstix
- Select the Jam tab and choose free jam, click 'Jam With Audio' in the bottom-right corner of Jamstix
- In the Tracktion properties of Jamstix, move the DRY slider all the way up to 0dB
- You should now hear your audio signal and the red LED in Jamstix next to the Jam switch should light up when you play
- Hit PLAY in Tracktion and Jamstix should interact with you. Just watch the velocity slider, it should move up and down in sync with your play
- You may want to raise the MIN VELOCITY slider in the jam tab so Jamstix doesn't drop to 0 velocity when you stop playing. Move it up until Jamstix plays at the lowest velocity you'd like

The thing with Tracktion that we noticed is that you must have the Audio-In (or MIDI In) symbol aligned with the track BEFORE you insert Jamstix or it won't get routed.

Hope this helps!
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Munin · Junior Jammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 3

Yep, worked!
Thanks for the detailed and spot-on support Smile

cctaylor · Jam Meister Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 78

Hi again...

I downloaded a demo of Tracktion.....

And followed your Detailed directions to the Tee.......

when playing my bass I can see the meter at the bottom spiking...

But whem Jamstix is inserted into the track I get no activity led from it...

When draging the filter to the track should it be placed in the front or end of the track, It seems you can drop it on the track within 3 different places which light up red when hovering over....

Sorry but really am just trying to play live audio to see how jamstix works and If I will be buying Sonar or Tracktion for Jamstix....Thanks

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Hi cctaylor,
I made a screenshot of how it should look like in Tracktion. The arrow point to the important settings. You can see the red light glowing as well.

http://www.rayzoon.com/img/tracktion.jpg

However, we released an update to the demo today that solves the problem with audio routing in Cubase so you won't have to migrate to Sonar or Tracktion (unless you want to). Just download the demo update (9MB) and install it. It will give you the audioM8 plugin which you can drop as an insertion effect into an audio track in Cubase where it will extract the info needed for jamming from the audio stream and send it to any open Jamstix in the VST instrument rack of Cubase.

Let me know if I can be of any further help!
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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

Some of you may experience problems getting Jamstix to recognize audio levels in Tracktion.

Please download this fix; just replace your existing Jamstix DLL with the one in this archive:

http://66.235.201.50/demos/jamstix099N.zip
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bw's · Junior Jammer Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: omaha

I have jamsticks loaded in tracktion I am getting a red led in jamsticks from my guitar input, but the velocity slider keeps dropping to zero, no matter where I manually put it. I realize this is probably a newbie issue..

Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

First off, make sure you have version 0.99Q (check about tab).

It sounds as if you're input is too low in volume. The red LED just means that there is audio input but says nothing about its volume. Please turn up the knob to the left of the red LED, which is the audio trim until your guitar play makes the velocity slider hit the right side when you play loud.

You'll also want to raise the 'min velocity' slider in the jam control panel to set the quietest you want the drums to play even when audio input drops to zero.

Let me know how it works for you!
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bw's · Junior Jammer Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: omaha

never mind (I figured it out). This is an awsome product..

darcyb62 · Jamologist Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 188

Since installing the release version of Jamstix I have been experiencing rater frequent crashes. Just a note that I applied 1.01b before trying the release version so I'm not sure if the problem existed in version 1.00.

Here is my setup...
PIII 700 (I know... it's about time I upgrade but this system has served me well). 512 RAM. I'm running WinXP pro that has been tweaked for audio. I have all my music stuff on its own disk partition.
Tracktion.
Tascam US122 with 3.24 drivers (with these last set of drivers the system has been very stable). Latency set to 512. 16 bit audio.
No external midi devices.

In trying to isolate the problem I have minimized the project to one audio track with some vsti effects and Jamstix.

I set Jamstix to manual mode and define an area to loop and press play. I use the rythm screen to select various rythms using the load command and I use the arrangment screen to add some fills. At this time I just let it continue looping and adjusting until I find the pattern I like, but I have yet to finish this as the system will hard crash (i.e. reboot). When the system reboots it goes to a disk scan (I'm using FAT32 as I have some plans to try Linux and Muse down the road). In one of these disk checks I had a message that there was a problem with the page file that it repaired.

Just a note that I did not experience these crashes with the demo, but then I wasn't using it to the extent I am now...

Oh yeah... I am using the internal drum kit so there shouldn't be anything else contributing to th problem.

Regardless... I am having some fun with this.
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Ralph [RZ] · Site Admin Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332

We really haven't heard this from other users but we're going to research this next week.

Please do this : edit your jamstix.ini file and add the line:

Logging=1

to the [General] section. If you experience a crash, send us the 'rzdlog.txt' file from the Jamstix folder to support@rayzoon.com. Note that this file gets overwritten when Jamstix loads so you must send us the file before you load Jamstix again.

Sorry about the troubles!
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darcyb62 · Jamologist Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 188

I'll get that out to you tomorrow...

By the way... I'm quite impressed with your responsiveness...

Have a good night...
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darcyb62 · Jamologist Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 188

I sent the log file up...

I tried using the latest ASIO4ALL drivers in place of the Tascam drivers (I had also tried their version 3.30 drivers without success) and I haven' seen a crash since.

I will spend a bit more time with this later today and I will let you know if I experience any more problems...

Cheers.
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