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VST3 support? (or suggestions for a VST2 -> VST3 wrapper
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kozmik_yak
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:29 am    Post subject: VST3 support? (or suggestions for a VST2 -> VST3 wrapper Reply with quote

Wondering whether there is any support on the horizon for VST3 format, as there are increasingly more open source audio programs that only support VST3 as VST2 was deprecated in the Steinberg SDK.

Failing that, I know there are wrappers out there that can do this. The DDMF Metaplugin is one of them. Any others? Any that are free or inexpensive? Failing that, what is the best/most stable one?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn’t notice Jamstix was VST2, or at least I have installed it so long time ago that I forgot. I have always put attention in installing the 64 bit version for Cubase. And yes, it is announced that with Cubase 12 in 2022 VST2 will not run anymore.

Edit: after looking in my system I can see that my Addictive Drums is a VST 2, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be clear, there is indeed at least one solution out there (DDMF Metaplugin is a bridge that allows this, and there are others I've heard mentioned.) Steinberg makes it very difficult for those that don't already have an SDK license from before their final transition to supporting VST3 only, to compile code for VST2 plugins.

Just wondering whether there was yet an officially recommended bridge program to use for this, or one that other people have tried successfully. If not, I'm going to be trying shortly to get this running with Giada in both a Windows and Linux environment, and Giada only supports VST3.

(I know Linux is not a supported enviornment, thus I'm going to try both. I see someone posted recently about trying in Linux and getting it mostly working.)

Working on a live looping rig for my electric cello and me. (plus some guitar)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I remember back during the Jamstix4 private beta (I believe) that work was started on a VST3 version of JS4 but there were parameter automation issues that caused it to be sidelined. I do not know where that stands today however.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some recent platform changes that (hopefully) will resolve the issues with our VST3 version. We should have more info on this in FEB-2022.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for informing us, Ralph.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just joined the forum, but I've noticed that alot of my vst2 run better than the vst3 version of the same plugs - even from major manufacturers. I've found if there's an issue with the vst3, often using the vst2 (both 64 bit of course) reduced the error.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yelloh_dee wrote:
I've noticed that alot of my vst2 run better than the vst3
In my case I've found the exact opposite to be the case and I'm looking forward to the VST3 version of Jamstix.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Cubase, and Steinberg has said they will drop VST 2 support over the next two years. Cubase 12 should be coming out soon and I hope they don't drop it in that version. That would give Cubase users at least another year hopefully. Of course, I know there are "converters" or "bridges" available. I think Blue Cat makes a bridge that I have heard works nicely. My main instruments are Jamstix and Kontakt so I am interested in how their VST3 development is coming along.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jas_lan wrote:
Blue Cat makes a bridge
True, but that seems to have a lot more included, making it more expensive. Looking at Metaplugin right now.

PS Kontakt 6 is already available as a VST3.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhythmicallyChallenged wrote:
True, but that seems to have a lot more included, making it more expensive. Looking at Metaplugin right now.


Although bridge is not yet needed, I purchased Metaplugin yesterday. I want to explore the other possibilities that it offers, especially the crossover filter, that allows to experiment with interesting parallel processing paths, each one for different frequency range.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhythmicallyChallenged wrote:

PS Kontakt 6 is already available as a VST3.

Oh good. I am still on Kontakt 5 for my full version (from Komplete 11). I do have Kontakt 6 Player but never really used it. I do need to update my Komplete the next time they are on sale.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
There are some recent platform changes that (hopefully) will resolve the issues with our VST3 version. We should have more info on this in FEB-2022.


Is there any update on this?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph, have the issues been resolved?
A VST3 roadmap would give us Cubase users peace of mind.
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