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emulating a drum ending fill/breakdown/freeform ending

 
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Jae.Thomas
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:45 am    Post subject: emulating a drum ending fill/breakdown/freeform ending Reply with quote

So, this is the same song I was working on here:

http://rayzoon2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8497

but this is a different subject which might be valued by others so I am starting a new thread.

You know how lots of songs have this like drum solo at the end that is totally free form, maybe a 2-4 bars (or longer in some rare cases) and then ends with a big stop with all the instruments?

https://youtu.be/lncr2g9XJHU?t=204

there's an example.

Well, I am trying to do the same thing with my friend's song here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3fk70qlxmujsiw/I%20Can%E2%80%99t%20Get%20Enough%20%28Of%20Living%20Without%20You%29-small.mp4?dl=0

tne ending of this song has exactly that, but with other instruments joining in.

How do I replicate something like this?

Here's my attempt:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cas2dh36x4clkku/living%20without%20you%20%282%29.j2d?dl=0

also the master and drum stem

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8da9u91dbtxjdj/I%20can%27t%20Get%20Enough%20%28of%20living%20without%20you%29_13-Master.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4g05ozf5wwxs16/I%20can%27t%20Get%20Enough%20%28of%20living%20without%20you%29_13-Superior%20Drummer%203.mp3?dl=0

any help appreciated, learning a lot lately!
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chip_mcdonald
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the Rock and Roll coda/tag first came to mind.

Maybe something like:


LAST PART
Stop
Drum Solo (set to 2/4, (depending) swing all the way up on 1/8th, focus on snare turned up, structure uniform turned up, STOPS > Time = downbeat Sound = KICK/HAT 100%, 100% chance

Hah, it's locked up Reaper at the moment while it's running looped.... Have to try to change a setting on it in order for Reaper's transport STOP to work. Ahrgh.
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Jae.Thomas
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, that helps a lot. I really don't think it's reasonable to say that the ending is going to be exactly the same as the recording, but the closer I can get to it the better.

I really appreciate your suggestions and I will take care of that when I'm back in the studio. I'll see what I can come up with.

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Jae.Thomas
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, here's what I have now:

master:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5jv9cmkqy0avk44/I%20can%27t%20Get%20Enough%20%28of%20living%20without%20you%29_16-Master.mp3?dl=0

drums:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y3vrr1i6zrg6gg2/I%20can%27t%20Get%20Enough%20%28of%20living%20without%20you%29_16-Superior%20Drummer%203.mp3?dl=0

I altered the tempo differently:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhxemeaqg9pxzt8/Screenshot%202021-10-21%20104246.png?dl=0

Brain settings:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/duzn4vuzt7ncj4a/Screenshot%202021-10-21%20104230.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/43ewx7b3zjvdimy/Screenshot%202021-10-21%20104216.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5trmzbns844hp5/Screenshot%202021-10-21%20104201.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s2r7l7yefdlgtlk/Screenshot%202021-10-21%20104143.png?dl=0

songfile

https://www.dropbox.com/s/48r1es8u3fnmzwf/living%20without%20you%20%283%29.j2d?dl=0
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Jae.Thomas
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as it turns out, I was totally off. It was literally just a cymbal swell, and a tom thing. jhaha

but, learning this stuff was super helpful and I appreciate it.

every time I run into a problem, I learn more and more - and Jamstix is still amazing after all these years.

Here's the finished project (for now):

http://rayzoon2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=50099#50099
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