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Hand-editing my Grooves

 
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jm_lange
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:24 am    Post subject: Hand-editing my Grooves Reply with quote

Dear all, i'm trying to use the Groove functionality Smile

I'm currently trying to use your Jamstix 4, to see if i'll buy it.
With Studio one. Win10.

One important feature for me is to be able to build a song with my grooves.
I use the free version for now. I have followed the tutorial (see below) but the song created doesn't correspond to my groove.

I'm really interested in Jamstix and i would really like to be able to use my grooves to build songs.

Is there any thing i should know to make it works ?
Maybe the free version doesn't allow this feature ?



Any tips ?

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Hand-editing Your Grooves
When you want to completely hand-edit a groove pattern, follow these steps:

click GROOVE in the main toolbar
click 'Clear Song' in the song sheet menu
load �Silent� for style and drummer
preview-loop a bar with the PREVIEW button in the bar editor
start editing the groove in the bar editor as desired
stop the preview
click �Save Groove As Style� in the bar editor menu and give it a descriptive name
open the song builder and build your song using your saved style
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but the song created doesn't correspond to my groove.


How so? In what way is the song not adhering to what you hand edited?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, in fact when i create a song based on my user recorded style, the song patterns are empty execpted some giving a total different rythme. (not a rytme at all in fact..).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you outline the exact steps you are using to create your song with the saved style? I just tested this function and it is working properly for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made a video of my process :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/by4h7lmzlao6ivc/Test.mp4?dl=0

Basically :
- Groove tab : Silent + silent drummer
- I set a drum kit
- I click preview and do my rythme
- I set 1 bar and no repetition
- I save the groove as style

Maybe there's something i'm doing wrong ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the slow reply because Imgur now sucks and won't let me upload the gif I made showing you how to do this. Load a Kit> Load Machine as a Drummer> Click Preview> Hand edit your Groove >stop Preview > Save Groove As Style. Now use the Song Builder> Choose your saved Groove as Style> Load Machine as Drummer> Create Song.
EDIT: Imgur finally decided to stop being a PITA.

EDIT: I removed the .gif


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, with free version, i don't have the same as you.

I create a groove, i do a style, but when the song is done the beat is not inside.
Did all as the same as you.

Will buy the standard version, maybe it's a free version bug/limitation.
I keep you informed.

I have a question : how to delete an user style ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think that was a limitation of the free version. It has been a long time since I've used the free version.

User styles are located by default in Windows in the C:\ProgramData\Jamstix4\data\styles\@ User Styles folder. Just navigate to that folder with Explorer and delete them.

EDIT: I just installed the free version to check this and this does NOT work in the free version. Sorry about that, I forgot. It does work great in the full version.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it would be a good idea to include this in the free version, because it is a feature a lot of people could be wanting to use. So they are convinced it works and buy the full version. In the free one it could be limited, for example for a couple of bars in the final song or something like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Knopf,

Of course it would be Ralph's decision what to do regarding this, I personally feel that the free version is already incredibly generous with all of the options that are fully functional.

I would agree that a clearer delineation of which options are fully functional or not in the free version would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:
... I personally feel that the free version is already incredibly generous with all of the options that are fully functional.


Hello a_zimuth. Hehe, by my side I don’t know which characteristics has the free version. I am guilty of taking immediately the full one. I had very good references and was already convinced.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am guilty of taking immediately the full one. I had very good references and was already convinced.


I felt the same when I bought Jamstix 3. I bought the basic version and within 2 weeks I purchased everything to make the full Studio edition. When I use a piece of software for over 10 years and it still surprises me from time to time with things unexpected, that to me is the sign of a great piece of software.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all,
I just bought the complete version and got it works immediately ^^
The free version doesn't allow this feature and the turnaround proposed by Ralph doesn't works.

A great soft !
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that you'll find Jamstix to be as amazing as a lot of others have jm. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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