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jazzmandan
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:07 pm Post subject: ECM drum grooves |
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I am on a hunt and thought were best to take this other then my friends at Jamstix.
I am looking for ECM drum grooves.
Jazz/Rock/Latin fusion where the drummer controls and drives the movements in a very loose and rhythmic fashion (sorry that is the best I can describe it). But check out this video for a much better description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txe--PwJhEY
Or, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ytv3Wbqgo&list=UU5jb0lfRD3Gj1SWe2IPdmmg&index=40
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Perhaps Jamstix has a drummer you could recommend? |
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you have the Sophistica Pak? That is where I would start to try and get an initial groove going. |
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jazzmandan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| a_zimuth wrote: | | Do you have the Sophistica Pak? That is where I would start to try and get an initial groove going. |
thanks for suggestion. I checked and it turned out I don't have that one. I was going to check for a black friday sale and then I saw the current price. Will pick it up shortly. Can't hurt.  |
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Knopf_
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| jazzmandan wrote: | | a_zimuth wrote: | | Do you have the Sophistica Pak? That is where I would start to try and get an initial groove going. |
thanks for suggestion. I checked and it turned out I don't have that one. I was going to check for a black friday sale and then I saw the current price. Will pick it up shortly. Can't hurt. |
A Black Friday, that was a good one.
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jazzmandan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| a_zimuth wrote: | | Do you have the Sophistica Pak? That is where I would start to try and get an initial groove going. |
Well I'll be damned, this is actually working for me!! How exciting. What is being played and how it is played appears to be on track for where I am going, BUT the drum kit needs to brighten up.
I tried different JS kits but they are very similar? In EZDrummer2 when I change kits I get pretty dramatic sound differences. Hold it, I found a boat load of kits.... Let me do some listening.
I was considering mapping the output of JS to the input of EZD2, but hopping to avoid that technical challenge and stay within JS. |
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Sir_Plus
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Jamstix lets you choose among several midi out layouts, and EZ Drummer 2 is included: Click on the Mixer tab. On the next row down (Which has the LOAD and SAVE buttons)...
you have your MIDI in and Midi out choices. MIDI out is all the way to the right. Simply click that, and choose whichever drum VI that you're driving.
Also, think of the included kits as a starting point. You can change the characteristics of each kit piece a lot within Jamstix's mixer, with the built-in
EQ, compresion, and reverb. You can also mix and match individual kit pieces. To change any kit piece, click the KIT tab, and right click any piece.
Then choose whatever piece you want to try. |
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jazzmandan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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It was all going so well... then JS v4 just stopped playing into the first verse. Intro plays then rest of arrangement goes silent. the GUI still moves along but no sound. I rebooted and no help. I swear I did not change a thing in a perfectly playing 48 bar arrangement. Just closed it one day and the next day this happened.
Any suggestions? |
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you post the .j2d file somewhere for download so I can see if it plays on my rig? I'd also suggest using the Manager app to send an email to support and attach your log files. |
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jazzmandan
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| I just tried it and it played through the entire song properly, so it's not the file. What tempo is the song supposed to be just out of curiosity. |
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jazzmandan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| a_zimuth wrote: | | I just tried it and it played through the entire song properly, so it's not the file. What tempo is the song supposed to be just out of curiosity. |
All fixed here. I saw the "Repair all" button in the manager and hit it. Seemed like all the program files re-installed. Loaded it up and all appears to be good now.
Thanks much for your quick response and efforts. Really appreciated. I will also add that Rayzoon support was in my email this morning also helping out. Great to have the helping hands.
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Glad that you're back in business. |
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jazzmandan
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OK, same problem with same project. JS4 goes silent after the intro. I tried the "repair all" and this time no help. I am afraid even my patience has run out. Its not that this is costing me any money, but the frustration of having to stop the creative process to address this again is more than I can take. Back to EZDrummer2 for me. Obviously not my first choice. But JS (with Reaper) and me are not getting along these days.  |
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Azimuth
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi JMD,
I use Reaper exclusively and have never experienced such behavior. Is there any chance you are unintentionally sending a controller message to mute the drum kit? I understand your frustration, believe me. |
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jazzmandan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just to close the loop. I deleted the entire track from Reaper, reinserted JS on a new track again and rebuilt the bars and groove and the tracked played properly but any editing I had done on the kit or bars were of course gone. In the meantime I worked with EZDrummer, but as in the past, quickly got frustrated searching for the right grooves.
So I will try JS v4 one more time on the project. If it goes south on me again then .... well lets just see what happens. |
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