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TheSystem
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:40 pm    Post subject: New song Reply with quote

I got a resonator last year and finally got around to recording a track with it.

This song has lyrics but I have been too lazy to mix them but plan to add them soon.

Jamstix of course makes this so much easier and fun.

https://www.reverbnation.com/brianblevins/song/31420441-dance-any-dance

I hope you like it.

This is also the first tune I used my Kemper on since getting it. The only electric guitar part is the solo which is the Kemper.

Brian


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice song and very good Jamstix work. I couldn't understand the lyrics, though Razz

Coincidently, after a conversation, tonight my wife wanted to know exactly the lyrics of "Money for Nothing", as she didn't know the story behind the song. By seeing the video she asked if the main riff was played with the guitar from the image, the resonator. Oh no, it is not that, that is a beautiful instrument called resonator. Let's hear a couple of songs with it. She knew and likes Romeo and Juliet, but didn't know that it was played with that kind of strange guitar. It was my perfect pretext for hearing some more Dire Straits songs and seeing Mr. Buttoner playing some pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Brian,
Not a criticism since I'm not a Country music listener but the lead tone for the solo is way too hi-gain and compressed for the song I feel. Definitely needs more picking dynamics. The playing is good but it feels like it was tacked on almost as an afterthought the way it is sitting in the mix instead of being where the song was building towards. Again, just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello a_zimuth:

when you say “solo” do you mean the drive part at almost the end or the multiple solo parts with the resonator? I am not native English speaker (as you can note) and had never used the word tacked. If I understand well its use here in mix context it is what I feel with the resonator parts, where one can hear maybe too much detail of the instrument and it is “over imposed” to the rest instead of mixed. With the drive solo I don’t feel that too much.

But, as the mix has no lyrics yet, I guess Brian hasn’t reached yet a final mix of the whole song. When the voice enters, one must rebalance other things, too.

These are constructive critics of course.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject: i agree Reply with quote

i will probably redo that part with less gain.

i found an awesome free Cornford profile and used it because i loved the sound but like you said a_zimuth. a bit too much.

i am going to find a tone similar to what Brent Mason used in this song around 2:10 to see if that works better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHp2ACnsgQ

still dirty but much cleaner.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject: i will definitely make changes once i get the vocals Reply with quote

Knopf_

i will do a re-balance once i get the vocals ready.

that reso part is way too up front in the mix for vocals.

thanks to both of you for losing and providing constructions and objective ideas.

brian
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Knopf,

Actually I was referring to the electric Guitar solo towards the end of the song and after having just gone back to listen to it again, I retract my "tacked on" statement. It is very well constructed and fits well. I still feel that the electric Guitar tone is far too "Metal sounding" for this type of song. The playing is very good as I said, if you're reading this Brian.

"Tacked on" as I used it refers to something that was added, in a less than ideal manner, to an object at the last minute because that "something" was unintentionally overlooked during creating the object.

Your English is better than a lot of the people I encounter in the US every day and infinitely better than my German. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: i agree Reply with quote

TheSystem wrote:
i will probably redo that part with less gain.

i found an awesome free Cornford profile and used it because i loved the sound but like you said a_zimuth. a bit too much.

i am going to find a tone similar to what Brent Mason used in this song around 2:10 to see if that works better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHp2ACnsgQ

still dirty but much cleaner.


That is definitely more along the lines of what my ears were expecting Brian. I do think you could go even significantly dirtier with the solo tone than that as long as you can preserve the string & picking dynamics. Great solo by the way, I really like the flow of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: good observation btw Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:
Hi Knopf,

Actually I was referring to the electric Guitar solo towards the end of the song and after having just gone back to listen to it again, I retract my "tacked on" statement. It is very well constructed and fits well. I still feel that the electric Guitar tone is far too "Metal sounding" for this type of song. The playing is very good as I said, if you're reading this Brian.

"Tacked on" as I used it refers to something that was added, in a less than ideal manner, to an object at the last minute because that "something" was unintentionally overlooked during creating the object.

Your English is better than a lot of the people I encounter in the US every day and infinitely better than my German. Laughing


the solo was the LAST thing i did. i am going through some new tones now.

i really like the tone of the cornford. i am going to start there with less gain and maybe a touch of compression.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:35 pm    Post subject: blame this guy.... Reply with quote

he has an AXE-FX here but he used to play Cornfords. he may still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2llLs4D5PA

what a great player. so much taste and feel IMO.

i also agree with you about how poorly people use the English language sometimes.

i need to PM you ask about WTH is going on with Amelia.

brian
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:

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"Tacked on" as I used it refers to something that was added, in a less than ideal manner, to an object at the last minute because that "something" was unintentionally overlooked during creating the object.
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I understand. It is something like fixing a patch over something.


a_zimuth wrote:


...Your English is better than a lot of the people I encounter in the US every day and infinitely better than my German. Laughing


OT permission

Well, thank you, but I feel I still speak Tarzanish. I am not german, though, I am chilean. My german sounding nick name (button) comes from my teenager and adult admiration of Mr. Knopfler. But after living five years in Germany I can communicate in the complicated language von Herrn Zeuner (I don’t want to say awful language, only Mark Twain is allowed to say it, I even find it beautiful).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: i agree Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:
TheSystem wrote:
i will probably redo that part with less gain.

i found an awesome free Cornford profile and used it because i loved the sound but like you said a_zimuth. a bit too much.

i am going to find a tone similar to what Brent Mason used in this song around 2:10 to see if that works better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHp2ACnsgQ

still dirty but much cleaner.


That is definitely more along the lines of what my ears were expecting Brian. I do think you could go even significantly dirtier with the solo tone than that as long as you can preserve the string & picking dynamics. Great solo by the way, I really like the flow of it.


i just did some quick research. looks like Brent Mason uses a modded 65 Bassman a lot. i just tried a kemper profile that i think sounds great with this tune. i put a touch of compression from the Boss i modded.

i will redo the solo. well solos since i doubled them and play a some harmony notes at the very end of the second solo.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: blame this guy.... Reply with quote

TheSystem wrote:
he has an AXE-FX here but he used to play Cornfords. he may still.


In my dreams that is exactly the playing ability I would have if Youtube existed when I was 15 LOL. Guthrie is just a breathtaking player who can apparently cover any genre placed in front of him.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knopf_ wrote:

I understand. It is something like fixing a patch over something.

Close enough.

Quote:
Well, thank you, but I feel I still speak Tarzanish. I am not german, though, I am chilean.

Apologies for making an assumption. My Spanish is no better than my German. If it wasn't for Google I'd never know what anyone was talking about sometimes.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Not mixed yet but... Reply with quote

I added the Ld Vox track so the person who sang it can listen for tuning issues.

I also redid the solo with a cleaner albeit still dirty sound. It is a 65 BF profile.

https://www.reverbnation.com/brianblevins/song/31420441-dance-any-premix-ld-vox-only

Once the Ld Vox kinks are done, I will do the same for the BGV and then mix it.

I am doing these as demos only for shopping.

Brian

PS. It is really just a silly song.
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