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non_drummer Jam Meister

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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:20 pm Post subject: Please use an example and explain how 'wrapping' works |
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I'm not sure I'm clear on its purpose. Could someone explain with with a hypothetical or real example?
I'm in the process of importing MIDI drum tracks to make some Rush cover songs. Their song Circumstances is about 130 bars long.... but has over 60 time signature changes. Could wrapping be used to make recreating this song easier? |
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Azimuth Moderator & Beta Team

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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| No, that's not really what it is intended for IMO. Wrapping is used to "fit" a midi groove or Jamstix groove from one time signature to another. For example if you have a midi loop that is 4/4 and your song is 5/4, the last beat will be uncomposed by Jamstix without wrapping. If you choose a wrap point, the loop will repeat and fill the last beat. You can also wrap the loop at any one of the other points available to create some really cool rhythms when it wraps during earlier beats of the bar. Just try it and you should see what I am talking about. |
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non_drummer Jam Meister

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, so it's for 'filling out' a measure when your MIDI loop is 'smaller' than where you intend to use it I guess is what you're saying? I honestly can't think of any circumstance where I would use such a feature, but then again, I'll never be known as one of humanity's great rhythm specialists. |
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Azimuth Moderator & Beta Team

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, "filling out" would be the primary purpose. But you can get some really interesting results by playing around with the wrap point. Plus a lot of midi loops are in 4/4 and this really expands the uses for them very easily. |
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non_drummer Jam Meister

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:00 am Post subject: |
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I believe what you're saying, it's just that from my perspective (and I could be 100% wrong), I don't see why anyone would be looking for a feature like this.
I'd think that anyone using JS would usually have a specific purpose in mind, and not be sitting around thinking "well, I've got this great idea for a song in 5/4.... I wonder how it would sound if I used a 3/8 groove with it?"
I know nothing about writing software, so if adding a feature like this was quick & simple then I guess, sure, why not include it..... but if it took a lot of man hours then I don't really understand why it would be prioritized over other features/improvements. |
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Azimuth Moderator & Beta Team

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Well actually it evolved back during the beta phase of JS4 when playing with the Jamstix 1 grooves that are included with JS4. I noticed that they only composed 4 beats regardless of the time signature. I pointed it out to Ralph and he came up with the idea of the Wrap function to account for it and it works great. That was the impetus of the idea but it has a lot more uses that just solving that issue. If you're writing in other than 4/4, it is a very valuable function. |
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non_drummer Jam Meister

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| OK, understood. I'll accept that it's something that's beyond my level of understanding at the present time. |
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Knopf_ Jamologist

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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I didn’t know that so an option exists. I read the manual, but can’t remember that.
And regarding “I'll never be known as one of humanity's great rhythm specialists“, you are not alone, I am the president of the “never to be known as one of humanity's great rhythm specialists” brotherhood. |
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