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gmon72
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 Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: Kits vs mappings/drumstick kit piece |
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I had posted this in the BFD thread but it might have been buried a bit. Curious as to others thoughts.
After reading the BFD kit thread, I made a custom kit based on Platinum Samples Evil Drums.
Doing this brought up a few questions mainly around work flow and one about drum sticks!
1) I have pretty much used mappings instead of custom kits with the thought being that I can create a song and change out VSTis and just change the mapping. If one changes a kit to another kit with different drums and/or articulations will the brain adjust at all to this or does will parts not play if the newly loaded kit has less pieces/articulations.
a) any thoughts on custom kits vs. MIDI mapping methods?
2) I started out with the MIDI template kit and went through and adjusted for the Platinum Samples Kits. A few things I observed -
a) Using Cubase 10 and BFD3 and starting from scratch, the MIDI notes were 2 octaves lower than what I set in JS. I found an older thread that suggested turning on Yamaha pitch convention and that indeed made the notes right, but will this have an impact on other kits/mappings?
b) The Platinum Samples Evil Drums kits/presets don't have drum sticks to do the count in. I noticed that I cannot remove that kitpiece/articulation from the kit and see that the during the intro that the brain was trying to play the sticks as a count in. Should I map that to the rimshot or side stick (or will that mess up the rimshot or side stick)? I can test more tonight but I don't know the implications of doing that.
3) Is going through the Kit GUI and assigning each articulation via the select note, assign button the only way to create the kits? Any shortcuts or other ways to make kits a bit faster (moreso useful to crazy people who have way too many drum VSTis Smile )
I have to say every time I dig a little deeper into JS, it is such a fun experience. Awesome plugin all the way around. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Kits vs mappings/drumstick kit piece |
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| gmon72 wrote: |
1) I have pretty much used mappings instead of custom kits with the thought being that I can create a song and change out VSTis and just change the mapping. If one changes a kit to another kit with different drums and/or articulations will the brain adjust at all to this or does will parts not play if the newly loaded kit has less pieces/articulations.
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Yes, but you must check 'Add Missing Pieces' and 'Remove Unmapped Pieces' to ensure proper alignment of pieces with the 3rd party plugin. The brain will adjust to the pieces available automatically. I believe custom kits and mappings both have their purpose but mappings are more flexible for plugin changes as you stated.
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Using Cubase 10 and BFD3 and starting from scratch, the MIDI notes were 2 octaves lower than what I set in JS. I found an older thread that suggested turning on Yamaha pitch convention and that indeed made the notes right, but will this have an impact on other kits/mappings?
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No impact, it is just a visual change.
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I noticed that I cannot remove that kitpiece/articulation from the kit and see that the during the intro that the brain was trying to play the sticks as a count in. Should I map that to the rimshot or side stick (or will that mess up the rimshot or side stick)? I can test more tonight but I don't know the implications of doing that.
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Two options:
a) change the 'Style' in the Intro part to 'Hats'
b) select 'Drumsticks' in the piece list of the kit editor, click its sound name and select 'Remove kit piece' to remove the sticks. If you keep the Intro style at drumsticks, Jamstix will use snare sidestick instead.
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3) Is going through the Kit GUI and assigning each articulation via the select note, assign button the only way to create the kits? Any shortcuts or other ways to make kits a bit faster (moreso useful to crazy people who have way too many drum VSTis Smile )
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Check out Kit Menu -> MIDI Key & Linkage Editor for a faster way to just alter MIDI keys.
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gmon72
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Ralph! I thought I couldn't remove the drumsticks as a kit piece. I'll be able to try again this weekend. |
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