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[mm_drums]

Finally bought Jamstix during the holiday sale, despite telling myself not to buy any more plugins lol. I'm pleased with my purchase, but I have a question.

I have custom kits in BFD3, some with extra cymbals or toms, others with percussion or even a second kick drum. Also, I think some of these have custom key maps.

I've tried loading the MIDI output to BFD3, which gets many of the kit pieces correct, but some kit pieces are missing and others load in Jamstix with no sound because they don't exist in the BFD kit.

What's the easiest way to get these kits mapped to Jamstix?

Is there an easy way to do this, or is the only way to map them by hand? Thanks!

[Azimuth]

You are going to have to do the mapping by hand if there is nothing that matches your BFD kits. See this post which discusses mapping 3rd party kits:

http://rayzoon2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=45711#45711

[Ralph [RZ]]

You could also just edit the kit in the Jamstix kit editor and save it as a custom kit. You would add/remove kit pieces as needed and set the MIDI key of the pieces/articulations as needed. Let me know if you need more help on that.
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[mm_drums]

Thanks for the help!

I was able to get the kit mapped by hand. The only thing is there are some articulations in BFD that aren't in Jamstix. For example, the cymbals have multiple hits, like bell and center, and Jamstix only has one per cymbal.

What should I do about these articulations? Should I add additional cymbals to the Jamstix kit to accommodate the extra articulations or will this mess with the Jamstix engine? Or would it be best to just ignore them and edit the midi later on if I want more variation?

[pro_fusion]

[operandx]

I too am interested in BFD3 kits. Is there any chance of sharing those BFD kit files pro_fusion?

[gmon72]

this thread inspired me to make a BFD Platinum Samples Evil Drums Kit.

happy to share it.

Doing this brought up a few questions mainly around work flow and one about drum sticks!

1) I have pretty much used mappings instead of custom kits with the thought being that I can create a song and change out VSTis and just change the mapping. If one changes a kit to another kit with different drums and/or articulations will the brain adjust at all to this or does will parts not play if the newly loaded kit has less pieces/articulations.

a) any thoughts on custom kits vs. MIDI mapping methods?

2) I started out with the MIDI template kit and went through and adjusted for the Platinum Samples Kits. A few things I observed -

a) Using Cubase 10 and BFD3 and starting from scratch, the MIDI notes were 2 octaves lower than what I set in JS. I found an older thread that suggested turning on Yamaha pitch convention and that indeed made the notes right, but will this have an impact on other kits/mappings?

b) The Platinum Samples Evil Drums kits/presets don't have drum sticks to do the count in. I noticed that I cannot remove that kitpiece/articulation from the kit and see that the during the intro that the brain was trying to play the sticks as a count in. Should I map that to the rimshot or side stick (or will that mess up the rimshot or side stick)? I can test more tonight but I don't know the implications of doing that.

3) Is going through the Kit GUI and assigning each articulation via the select note, assign button the only way to create the kits? Any shortcuts or other ways to make kits a bit faster (moreso useful to crazy people who have way too many drum VSTis )

I have to say every time I dig a little deeper into JS, it is such a fun experience. Awesome plugin all the way around.

[pro_fusion]

[gmon72]

Pro fusion ... FYI when I just created a BFD kit, I removed the unused drum and cymbal pieces from the JS4 kit to match the BFD kit. Then you don't need to assign multiple kit pieces to the same BFD kit piece.

[Ralph [RZ]]