Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[pettrer_]

Hi,

I am new to Jamstixx 4 free (have used Jamstixx 2 though, several years ago). The concept is fabulous, and Jamstixx really should be used by, well, just about every electronic musician.

Some things startle me, not sure if they are bugs or if I misunderstand:

1. If I have selected the Song structure pane, but no part is selected, and then hit a key (like C for Chorus), the new part appears last. If, on the other hand, I have selected a part, the new part appears BEFORE the selected part. This is inconsistent I think.

2. It appears my song follows the Song structure pane when I click Create Song, but only up to bar 67. Have no idea why. (See attached screenshot and the two ugly circles. The marked Verse in the pane to the far left should in reality have become Chorus, repetition 2, I think. For some reason, Chorus has no repeats, even though it has three consecutive instances in the Song structure pane)

3. Create song updates the Song pane (to the far left). However, Reset resets the Song Structure pane. This is not only inconsistent as I see it, but it also trashed my song structure. (Not the end of the world of course, but I have listened through my song several times to get the structure correct, and since there is no undo for this...)

4. The lower left pane (the one with the normally cased names) has no heading. I have trouble understanding the difference between that one and the one with the uppercase names.

I'd much appreciate thoughts on these matters (especially 2 of course)!

Petter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11-X-aNNGrT-eFGaDy9nbjhPOic58nN3M/view?usp=sharing

[jas_lan]

The lower left pane (with lower case) is where you find parts that are in your song whereas the upper left is all the default jamstix part types. So the idea being that the lower left gives you quicker access to parts already in your song in case you want to “reuse” them. (I think......). This is particularly helpful if you have a part in your song that you have edited to create a specfic feel or pattern...

I need to take a closer look at 1 and 3 when I get a chance...

For no. 2 I will have to have a closer look. I am not sure why your Chorus 2 didn’t get the repeats but at first look it seems it should have 4 repeats. It might have to do with the Chorus length setting...
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[pettrer_]

Thanks! I will try with a 4 bar setting and see if that helps for now.

[pettrer_]

[Ralph [RZ]]

This is really odd. I can't replicate this at all. For me, choruses add up their reps as they should. Can you do a 'Save Song As' in the song menu and send me the file to support@rayzoon.com?
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[jas_lan]

I can’t replicate the chorus repeat issue here either.
@Pettrer... do you have any time signature changes in there?

Concerning the “Clear” vs. “Reset” buttons on the builder screen I also am unclear as to the difference between their functions. They seems to do the same thing (clearing “Your Song Structure”).
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[Ralph [RZ]]

[pettrer_]

Hi,

Thanks all for getting back to me. This must be one of the most attentive, helpful, and friendly support forums on the web!

I have now investigated these problems further and have recorded a video on the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKh408R0aeY

Here are the issues with their repective time stamp:

00.27: When tehre are more than two of something consecutively, only two are put in the song (such as Chorus). Also, the part in question cannot get its number of repetition or bar length changed (I forgot to show that in the video).

00.44: Here, I show the Reset/Clear thing which Ralph replied to. I think it is still confusing and also inconsistent really.

01.10: Here I try to show the inconsistency when adding parts to the song structure. If I doubleclick a library part, it is placed last. If something is selected in the song structure, it is placed before the part in question. This makes it impossible to add parts last using the keyboard, as I understand it.

01.34 For some reason, the correct number of repetitions were generated!

02.26 Just showing that "Chorus 1" in the user parts pane is not the same thing as "Chorus 1" in the song pane. Perhaps ABC would be better numbering in one of them?

To top things off I wonder if there is really a reson for having both a song structure pane and a song pane. To me, I think the song structure pane could be left out. That would avoid some of my confusion and also provide more space.

[jas_lan]

I was just able to duplicate the incorrect number of repetitions of a part issue.
I am still trying to sort it out exactly but it has to do with modifying an existing song structure and an existing song and rebuilding....

OK.
Try this....
From a blank structure...
Add three CHORUS parts and build the song.
correct.
add two VERSE parts after the three chorus parts and build again.
correct.
Now, insert a VERSE between the first and second CHORUS and rebuild.
incorrect.
Here I get...
Chorus 1
Verse 1
CHorus 2
Verse 2
1 repetition in all of them.

It seems to be the inserting causing the problem perhaps.
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[pettrer_]

Great (in a way...)!

I thought the problem might have had to do with me using MuLab (since it's a rather uncommon DAW). Since you are able to replicate the error, and the error itself seems rather simple, I put my hope in a patch instead.

Did you see the movie I created? If you want to you can try to replicate the exact steps I took.

Thanks a lot!

Petter

[jas_lan]

I did see your movie which was helpful because that was how i got the idea to try inserting some parts.
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[Ralph [RZ]]