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miden_1
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reggae_greggae wrote:

He's building a cross platform application that will contain significant enhancements to both the user interface and underpinnings. Not sure if it's just him doing the development, and whether this is his main gig. But even under the best of circumstances these things can take a while. I've done this for over 30 years, and sometimes implementations just don't go the way you anticipate and the timelines slip. And your real life (which involves family, friends, pets, home, etc.) can get in the way as well.

What I'm waiting for more than anything is the next generation of the editor and mapper. But for now my customized Reaper setup gets me by. I don't think JS is *that* buggy. I think I've had maybe one crash total since I got it. Or clumsy. Room for improvement, sure. But as far as responsiveness and support for the product, I don't think you get much better than Ralph. I think if you polled, most here would agree he's a prince among common men.

I'll stick with him for the same reason I use an Axe FX. I think small companies with innovative products and founders who genuinely care about their user base generally wind up in the right place at the end of the day.


Yep, this ^^^^!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I the only one having a feeling that JS4 never will come?


Probably not, so you won't be alone when you're proven wrong. Ralph and his crew have always come through before, and I know they will once again.
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ding_dong
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:
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Am I the only one having a feeling that JS4 never will come?


Probably not, so you won't be alone when you're proven wrong. Ralph and his crew have always come through before, and I know they will once again.


Can't wait to be proven wrong....hopefully before 2018....and as a "real" vsti with proper daw integration like any other plugin out there.

But...I still have my doubts.
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Azimuth
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it takes until 2018, it takes until 2018. No biggie as JS3 does everything I need and more. I'm just saying that Ralph has always been true to his word as far as I can see so I have no worries regarding JS4. It happens when it happens.
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R Green
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope we don't get inundated by JS4 and new expansions at.the same time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a_zimuth wrote:
If it takes until 2018, it takes until 2018. No biggie as JS3 does everything I need and more. I'm just saying that Ralph has always been true to his word as far as I can see so I have no worries regarding JS4. It happens when it happens.

Lets hope not. I have to do all fills myself as all the fills in Jamstix are clicks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Slooky_,
What do you mean "all the fills in Jamstix are clicks"? Since this is off topic if you want to PM me or start a new topic, I'll see if I can help.
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richard_schoenfeld
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant hold out much longer.....looking to this thread since month (first vague announcement of "beta") and..................nothing, just.............nothing

I know Ralph is a kind and very helpful guy, support works without problems but I must say I just feel kind of ignored if this is not even worth just a few words evry few weeks how its goint, I am busy, something like that just at least to know he is fine and jamstix at least still exists.....

Have resisted evry black friday and christmas deal, sigh, now at vstbuz a new great one.....

Cause if I be honest all I really need is a jamstix 4.....

But......2017 ? 2018 ? Cant really follow this kind of none information, its not meant to criticisze but I just cant understand

Sad

Just to get clear and not missunderstood: I dont need a WilliamK kind of 24 hour live stream out of the devellopment room but....maybe there is something inbetween that and nothing ?
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Dali_S
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richard_schoenfeld wrote:


Cause if I be honest all I really need is a jamstix 4.....


Managing hopes and expectations is quite difficult in software development. It's even harder when you're a small company.
Don't you think Ralph would be happier and richer if it was released 6 months ago? Sure. But the software is not ready yet.

If he release it without proper testing it will be labelled as "rotten" or imagine any other bad quality. I don't think it's worth it just to "please" early adopters and adventure seekers. Smile

If JS 3.6 is not working for you I would suggest you let your expectations down and shop for another solution frankly.

Warning: English isn't my first language, I'm supposed to be friendly writing this so bear with me, I'm a nice and comprehensive guy. I just want to give some kind of "reality-check".

JS4 will probably not solve all your needs and dreams about a perfect Intellignet drummer VST. Without being in the beta team I can presume only, but usually, 80% of a software, even if it's rewritten from scratch, will keep 90% of its functionality. Don't expect the holy grail. Smile

Dali (in zen mode, even if I'm looking forward to JS4 !)
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ckurz_7000
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue I have is not with quality or timeliness. It is about communication with the customer base and transparency.

-- Chris.
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78_deluxe
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree it would be nice to have an update on the progress and current expectations.

Previous expectations were version 4 release by the end of 2016 (per Ralph).

It is now Mid-December 2016, the 11th hour so to speak and I haven't even seen posts discussing if beta testing is even going on yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dali,

you maybe right with expectations but centre of my request was the same Chris posted:

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The issue I have is not with quality or timeliness. It is about communication with the customer base and transparency


And that was the point where it is really kind of hard to understand for me. There are times when forums are just too much for a one-man-band, I know that and I have understanding for it. But even that could be communicated in just a few words evry few weeks. Hope you get what I mean (english is not my main language too by the way Smile .

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I'm supposed to be friendly writing this so bear with me


That was my intention too, not bothering or anything, just asking cause I really dont understand.

So lets all hope Ralph is well and on a good way and maybe will find some time just for a few words from time to time...
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miden_1
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha this has Half-Life 3 connotations all over it!!
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non_drummer
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No sale this year, either? Seems like every December there's been a 50% off sale.
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alexis
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ckurz_7000 wrote:
The issue I have is not with quality or timeliness. It is about communication with the customer base and transparency.

-- Chris.


Ditto. It's part of showing respect and consideration towards the customer. A weekly or monthly update would not be out of line.

In the absence of communication, people will fill in the blanks with their own scenarios, it's just human nature.
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