Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[Twist_1]

Hello,

I've searched all over this forum and the internet but can't find an answer to how I can get Jamstix to trigger the AD2 samples within Logic 9

I found these two threads, but it's missing a crucial step for me.

http://rayzoon2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7239&highlight=ad2

http://rayzoon2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7026&highlight=ad2

This is what I've done so far.

1. Create a track and load AD2 in the I/O slot.
2. Create a track and load Jamstix 3 in the I/O slot.
3. Go in to Jamstix and set the Kit to AD.

4. Now what? How do I get the Jamstix midi files to trigger what's happening in the AD2 track? The threads above mention putting AD2 in the chain after JS, but I'm not sure how to do that in Logic 9. The manual wasn't clear either.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[Ralph [RZ]]

The problem with Logic and AU is that, unlike most other DAWs, it does not support MIDI output from plugins. Here is the work-around:

1. Create an IAC bus called JAMSTIX in Audio MIDI Setup and make sure it's online.
7. Click anywhere on the track header of the instrument track with your other drum plugin to record-enable it.
8. Press the Spacebar or the Play button on the LPX transport.

Video by stpete111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gCcRzs9zPw
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[Dewdman42]

one little addition to these instructions... After creating the track with Jamstix on it, then right click the track and use "reassign" to have the track output to "No Output".

This will result in having Jamstix hosted on a mixer channel, but NOT in the sequencer track list.

This is desirable so that the midi looping around over IAC does not come back into Jamstix again in any kind of endless loop. This can get a little complicated though if you still need your midi controller to be able to go into Jamstix while using it also.

Another alternative that I find pretty easy and very straightfoward, but costs extra money, is to use BlueCatAudio Patchwork to host Jamstix as a AUMFX in logic. In this case, no IAC port is needed as long as the drum sound module you're using, such as AD2, can be contained alone in the instrument plugin slot of that same channel. This is actually the cleanest way to go, but does require buying BlueCatAudio Patchwork in order to have Jamstix function as a AU-mfx. Also, there are still as of this writing some GUI bugs when using Jamstix inside Bluecat audio, so there is that problem too.

(note to Razyoon, its very easily to compile an AU as mfx and it would be greatly helpful if you released an AUMFX version along with the VSTi/AUi versions so that third party product not needed)

[Dewdman42]

Actually some corrections to the above.

1. Using the JAMSTIX IAC port has horrible timing, the events are being sent by Jamstix WAY early. I saw the video mentioned above where the user has to click on the jamstix track and click back back again in order to somehow sync the clock, which makes no sense to me whatsoever.
   
2. If you hide the jamstix track as I mentioned above, then you can't even do the little click-on-track trick.
   
3. I was never really ever able to get jamstix to play correctly to the metronome by using IAC loop around. I really don't get how and why the guy in the video made it work by clicking back and forth on the tracks, but its rather fiddly and I never got it to work.
   
4. The best way I have found with JS3, which avoids the IAC loop, is to use PlogueBidule midi au fx, which can host Jamstix inside it. Then you can put both Jamstix and Addictive Drums on one track/channel in Logic and the midi never leaves Logic over IAC..its all self contained within one track. Timing is spot on that way. But you do have to buy a product to do it. I used to use BlueCatAudio Patchwork, which is cheaper and easier to use, but for some reason there is some GUI incomptability between JS3 and Patchwork, which makes it unusable. Plogue Bidule seems to work fine though.
   
5. I hope that Ralph will consider compiling JS4 as an AUMFX in addition to AUi and VSTi. This is a matter of changing one line of code and compiling it, as I understand it, several devs have told me, its just about registering the plugin as a certain type of AU and then compile and you'll a plugin that will work in the Midi fx slot. The audio will be ignored, so a better implementation would be to have Jamstix itself disable audio when its being used that way. In any case, this would eliminate the need for a 3rd party product and would make Jamstix use in Logic Pro MUCH easier to deal with in most circumstances.