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[alexis]

Jamstix Kit: Rock Standard
Groove Agent SE4 Kit: Maple

Here is a drum key connecting them. For drum newbies like me, you can copy/paste this into the JS Rock Standard key map, have JS send its output to MIDI, and then route the MIDI track to Groove Agent SE 4 Maple kit.

I had to tick on the option, "Use Yamaha naming convention" , in JS options.


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DRUMS: 2015-07-13 a JS Standard Rock to GASE4 Maple Kit
PERC: NOT LOADED

Kick #36 C1 Kick - 22'' JS3
Hihat Foot Splash #32 G#0 HiHat Foot Splash - 14'' JS3
Ride #51 D#2 Ride - 20'' JS3
Ride Bell #53 F2 Ride Bell - 20'' JS3
Crash 1 #49 C#2 Crash - 16'' JS3
Crash 2 #57 A2 Crash - 17'' JS3
Splash 1 #55 G2 Splash - 10'' JS3
Snare Side #37 C#1 Snare Sidestick - 14'' JS3 Medium
China 1 #52 E2 China - 16'' JS3
Snare Bounce #38 D1 Snare Bounce - 14'' JS3 Medium
Jam B. Hi #79 G4 Jam Block Hi - JS3
Jam B. Lo #81 A4 Jam Block Lo - JS3
Chimes #80 G#4 Chimes - JS3
Cowbell #84 C5 Cowbell - JS3
Tambourine #83 B4 Tambourine - JS3
Drumsticks #82 Bb4 Drumsticks - JS3
Snare Center #40 E1 Snare - 14'' JS3 Medium
Snare Offset #34 Bb0 Snare Offset - 14'' JS3 Medium
Snare Rimshot #37 C#1 Snare Rimshot - 14'' JS3 Medium
Tom 1 Center #48 C2 Tom - 8'' JS3
Tom 1 Offset #48 C2 Tom Offset - 8'' JS3
Tom 2 Center #45 A1 Tom - 10'' JS3
Tom 2 Offset #47 B1 Tom Offset - 10'' JS3
Tom 3 Center #45 A1 Tom - 12'' JS3
Tom 3 Offset #45 A1 Tom Offset - 12'' JS3
Tom 4 Center #43 G1 Tom - 14'' JS3
Tom 4 Offset #43 G1 Tom Offset - 14'' JS3
Tom 5 Center #41 F1 Tom - 16'' JS3
Tom 5 Offset #41 F1 Tom Offset - 16'' JS3
Snare Brush Muted #33 A0
Hihat Closed #42 F#1 HiHat Closed - 14'' JS3
Hihat 25% #42 F#1 HiHat 25pct - 14'' JS3
Hihat 50% #42 F#1 HiHat Half Open - 14'' JS3
Hihat 75% #46 Bb1 HiHat 75pct - 14'' JS3
Hihat Open #46 Bb1 HiHat Open - 14'' JS3
Cymbal Choke #1 C#-2
Egg Shaker #75 D#4 Egg Shaker - JS3
Shaker #76 E4 Shaker - JS3
Snare Brushing #31 G0
Hihat Foot Close #44 G#1 HiHat Foot - 14'' JS3
Hihat Shank 0% #42 F#1 HiHat Closed Shank - 14'' JS3
Hihat Shank 50% #42 F#1 HiHat Half Open Shank - 14'' JS3
Hihat Shank Open #46 Bb1 HiHat Open Shank - 14'' JS3
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It's not a perfect match, there are a *lot* more articulations in Jamstix kit than in this GA4 SE kit (for example there are 5 snare articulations, and I mean above and beyond velocity changes, these are "Center", "Offset", "Sidestick", "Bounce", and "Rimshot". GA4 SE has ... Snare and Rimshot).

So what I did for example in each Tom, where Jamstix has "Center" and "Offset", I assigned both to the same MIDI key to GA4 SE "Tom". Also no sticks, etc. in the GA4 SE kit, just have to live without those in this key.

Hope this does help someone else down the road, and if anyone else makes a key connecting another JS kit to another GASE4 kit, maybe it can be appended here.

I do have a question though (surprise, surprise!):
I am in the market for a drum VSTi just to get better sounding samples, but I'm wondering if I will just have to accept the fact that I will lose "resolution", meaning some of the Jamstix sounds, when I play them through Battery or EZ Drummer 2 etc., just because they are not as complete and detailed as Jamstix (only 1 snare sample, instead of Jamstix's 4-6; only 1 tom sample for every Jamstix "Tom Center", "Tom Offset").

I know a lot of you guys do route JS to another VSTi ... do you miss having that high level of detail in Jamstix? Or, maybe there's a way to get this done without losing out on it?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
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Alexis
JS 3.6.1x64; Cubase 7.5.40 64 bit; i5-4570 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM; W7 SP1 64-bit on Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB; Seagate 1TB SATA 600 Audio Drive; UR28M; Motif8; UAD-2 Solo, BCF2K; TC Helicon VoiceOne; RevoicePro3

[Awinterstale_33]

I think the best future proof and expandable option would be to get Kontakt and their Drum Library "Studio Drummer". Kontakt seems to be ahead of the sampling market and you can always use it for more than just drums.

You don't have to buy one of their expensive libraries though! There's a free drum kit over at the reaper forums:

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=150924&highlight=free+drum+samples+kontakt

that has anywhere from 45 to 127 velocity layers. The snare even has 4 different mics so "Each of those 127 x 4 snare samples have 4 mic channels (it’s a 4 channel / track wav file). So effectively its 127 x 4 x 4 = 2032 samples just for just one snare articulation !!"

That drum sample kit can also be used in a different sampler by the way but still I think your best bet is Kontakt. I use it and everything works as expected with Jamstix.