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Phil Fee
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| Sounds promising, Ralph. I have often thought about us users being able to find what we want in a database full of rhythmic grooves by playing or tapping a sample rhythmic feel in as a "query" with the result being some grooves close to the feel we already have in mind. Seems like this approach is targeted at exactly that. |
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Dewdman42
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I like the new feature. Kind of like if I was talking to a drummer and trying to describe more or less the groove I want and let him play it like a drummer..
As always can't wait for Jam Bassist in 2018 |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Dewdman42 wrote: | | As always can't wait for Jam Bassist in 2018 |
I know I have to take the irony like a man 
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Dewdman42
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Robus_1
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That's a fantastic idea. Anything that makes Jamstix more intuitive is winner with me.
I use Jamstix literally every day. It's miles ahead of the old way of programming drum loops by hand or sorting through pages and pages of MIDI patterns looking for one that fits the pulse I have in mind. But a lot of the tweak-ability of the current Jamstix is lost on me because I can't always predict what I will get when I twist the sliders and knobs. It can get in the way of getting a useable groove up and running quickly, which is the point of Jamstix.
If there is one aspect of Jamstix that could benefit the most from simplifying it is fills. Presets would be one way of doing it. It would also be helpful if the pocket and timing features of the underlying groove could apply to the fills and accents. |
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Reaper_GG
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Im excited with the development angles you described. i look forward to something great! |
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Dewdman42
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: |
There is a new concept that is part of the 'simplified Jamstix' effort. We are quite excited about it but I can't give out too many details at this time, other than its taking up a good chunk of our time. It centers around this question:
"If the user hits a single key on the MIDI keyboard in some kind of pattern that the user thinks reflects the desired groove, not necessarily in a kick/snare pattern, but more as a pulse sequence as you would if you were tapping on your chair while listening to a song, how much information about the style, groove, accents, fills can we glean auto or semi-automatically from this?"
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Related to this I would just like to suggest that Jamstix be able to extract this kind of groove template information from other tracks...audio or midi....and/or able to read DNA groove template files and use the grooves from them, etc.. DNA grooves are not using the same meaning of the word "groove" as Jamstix does, in Jamstix the word "groove" is more about the actual pattern being used. DNA grooves are more about the timing nuances of how things are ahead or behind the beat, etc.. the swing factor so to speak. This would make it possible to take an audio recording and force Jamstix to play extremely tight against that audio performance.
But also the ability to extract patterns...or the Jamstix notion of groove, would be interesting.
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alexis
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IF I had to choose between easier use/more up-to-date GUI vs. increased functionality ...
I would choose the former. It is so early 2000s and frustrating to get simple things like cut/paste, undo, etc, done in JS. Key commands are definitely wished for.
BUT ... hopefully it's not an either/or ... we'll get a more up-to-date GUI as well as more functionality! 
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Ralph [RZ]
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Updated GUI is the major point of JS4. However, key commands are a slippery slope with host/DAW having control.
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alexis
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | Updated GUI is the major point of JS4. However, key commands are a slippery slope with host/DAW having control. |
Great for the news on enhanced GUI in js4!
Re: PCs - I'm sure you're right, my only perspective is using Revoice Pro which has its own key commands, and except for having to memorize a 2nd set, it works fine, no collisions with Cubase's KCs.
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d_steinschneider
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: |
There is a new concept that is part of the 'simplified Jamstix' effort. We are quite excited about it but I can't give out too many details at this time, other than its taking up a good chunk of our time. It centers around this question:
"If the user hits a single key on the MIDI keyboard in some kind of pattern that the user thinks reflects the desired groove, not necessarily in a kick/snare pattern, but more as a pulse sequence as you would if you were tapping on your chair while listening to a song, how much information about the style, groove, accents, fills can we glean auto or semi-automatically from this?"
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Hi Ralph,
I was thinking myself that it would be cool if JS could listen to you tap the computer keyboard or a midi controller to learn the pocket you're after. |
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chill_human
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A feature like this will make the drummer style so much more important. Tapping a key will impart the accented parts - how the bar breathes - but filling in the notes is so drummer dependent!
With a guitar in my hand, if I could press midi key switches that just say "put accents here, and be sparse around it" and have JS build a beat would make JS so much more improvisational! Being able to midi-map intensity to a midi-pedal already gives a huge palette just for building up a crescendo and dropping back into a grooving part, but tapping something in and having a part pop up on the fly, whoa momma! |
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