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Jamstix3 audio dropouts when using 2 instances
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:26 pm    Post subject: Jamstix3 audio dropouts when using 2 instances Reply with quote

When i use 2 instances of the Jamstix3 32Bit VST-Plugin, i get random audio dropouts. This is with no other tracks and plugins loaded.

The system shows decent performance even with many other plugins loaded as long as there is only 1 instance of JS present.

Is it possible to limit the audio outputs of JS to a lower value than 8, as i only need 2 stereo channels anyway, in order to reduce the CPU load?

My setup is as follows:
HP Z600 with 2 x Xeon 2.53 Ghz, 12 GB DDR3 RAM, Samsung SSD 830 system disk, WD RE4 1TB data disk.
MOTU Traveller MK3 Firewire Interface on PCIe Controller with TI chipset
ASIO Buffer: 512 Samples at 16 Bit / 44.1 KHz
Windows 8.1, Ableton Live 9.1, MuLab 6.4.5, Jamstix 3.6.1
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this: with the project loaded, go to the Windows task manager and set the priority on jamstix.exe to HIGH. Does that fix it for you?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ralph, but unfortunately this doesn't help.

I've tried about anything from reinstalling OS to replacing graphics card, Audio-Interface and DAW, so finally i thought this may be caused by JS.
But it seems to only be the fact, that two JS instances of course take a lot of realtime bandwidth or something, which then leads to the dropouts.

I think this is a wierd problem with the workstation itself. Altough it's great CPU processing power, it has some dpc latency issues.
One last i could try is to replace the ECC memory with non-ECC.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Email me Documents\Jamstix3\rzdlog.txt for review.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sent you the rzdlog.txt
Have to say that i can't reproduce the dropouts at a given time, as they are completely random.
However, before i've copied the rzdlog.txt, i had a really bad audio dropout with very high cpu load, just after replacing the currently loaded project with another one (also with two instances of JS).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please uncheck 'Load-On-Demand' in both instances and see if it fixes it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Ralph.

That fixed it not completely, but it seems to be somehow better now.
The CPU load in the host doesn't fluctuate no more, but stays on a fixed value and the dropouts are less frequently and much lighter.

This shows to me that the problem lies elsewhere, but JS can take it's part in reducing the CPU load, so there is less of a possibility that dropouts may occur.

That's ok!
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem when loading a 2nd intsance of jamstixx 3.6 in studio one v3 (also happened in v2). I'm using the 64bit plugin. I unchecked "load on demand" (even though I just use JS 'midi only' to trigger Addictive drums). the cpu hits are a bit less. but still unstable/unusable. as soon as i remove the 2nd instance, everything is fine again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timo_75 wrote:
I have the same problem when loading a 2nd intsance of jamstixx 3.6 in studio one v3 (also happened in v2). I'm using the 64bit plugin. I unchecked "load on demand" (even though I just use JS 'midi only' to trigger Addictive drums). the cpu hits are a bit less. but still unstable/unusable. as soon as i remove the 2nd instance, everything is fine again.


Try this: with the project loaded, go to the Windows task manager and set the priority on jamstix.exe to HIGH. Does that fix it for you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesnt allow me to do that in task manager; says "permission denied".
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click START on Windows task bar and enter this in the search box:

taskmgr

you should see a popup for 'taskmgr.exe'. Right-click on it and choose 'Run As Administrator'
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried that. Unfortunately the problem persists.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you start Ableton Live as administrator via right-click?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Studio One. I can start that as Admin, yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you start Studio One as admin, can you still not adjust thread priority of jamstix.exe in task manager?
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