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netandif_2008 Jammer

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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: Jamstix3 audio dropouts when using 2 instances |
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When i use 2 instances of the Jamstix3 32Bit VST-Plugin, i get random audio dropouts. This is with no other tracks and plugins loaded.
The system shows decent performance even with many other plugins loaded as long as there is only 1 instance of JS present.
Is it possible to limit the audio outputs of JS to a lower value than 8, as i only need 2 stereo channels anyway, in order to reduce the CPU load?
My setup is as follows:
HP Z600 with 2 x Xeon 2.53 Ghz, 12 GB DDR3 RAM, Samsung SSD 830 system disk, WD RE4 1TB data disk.
MOTU Traveller MK3 Firewire Interface on PCIe Controller with TI chipset
ASIO Buffer: 512 Samples at 16 Bit / 44.1 KHz
Windows 8.1, Ableton Live 9.1, MuLab 6.4.5, Jamstix 3.6.1 |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Try this: with the project loaded, go to the Windows task manager and set the priority on jamstix.exe to HIGH. Does that fix it for you? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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netandif_2008 Jammer

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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ralph, but unfortunately this doesn't help.
I've tried about anything from reinstalling OS to replacing graphics card, Audio-Interface and DAW, so finally i thought this may be caused by JS.
But it seems to only be the fact, that two JS instances of course take a lot of realtime bandwidth or something, which then leads to the dropouts.
I think this is a wierd problem with the workstation itself. Altough it's great CPU processing power, it has some dpc latency issues.
One last i could try is to replace the ECC memory with non-ECC.
What do you think? |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Email me Documents\Jamstix3\rzdlog.txt for review. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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netandif_2008 Jammer

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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Just sent you the rzdlog.txt
Have to say that i can't reproduce the dropouts at a given time, as they are completely random.
However, before i've copied the rzdlog.txt, i had a really bad audio dropout with very high cpu load, just after replacing the currently loaded project with another one (also with two instances of JS). |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Please uncheck 'Load-On-Demand' in both instances and see if it fixes it. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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netandif_2008 Jammer

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Ralph.
That fixed it not completely, but it seems to be somehow better now.
The CPU load in the host doesn't fluctuate no more, but stays on a fixed value and the dropouts are less frequently and much lighter.
This shows to me that the problem lies elsewhere, but JS can take it's part in reducing the CPU load, so there is less of a possibility that dropouts may occur.
That's ok! |
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timo_75 Jammer

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I have the same problem when loading a 2nd intsance of jamstixx 3.6 in studio one v3 (also happened in v2). I'm using the 64bit plugin. I unchecked "load on demand" (even though I just use JS 'midi only' to trigger Addictive drums). the cpu hits are a bit less. but still unstable/unusable. as soon as i remove the 2nd instance, everything is fine again. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| timo_75 wrote: | | I have the same problem when loading a 2nd intsance of jamstixx 3.6 in studio one v3 (also happened in v2). I'm using the 64bit plugin. I unchecked "load on demand" (even though I just use JS 'midi only' to trigger Addictive drums). the cpu hits are a bit less. but still unstable/unusable. as soon as i remove the 2nd instance, everything is fine again. |
Try this: with the project loaded, go to the Windows task manager and set the priority on jamstix.exe to HIGH. Does that fix it for you? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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timo_75 Jammer

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesnt allow me to do that in task manager; says "permission denied". |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Click START on Windows task bar and enter this in the search box:
taskmgr
you should see a popup for 'taskmgr.exe'. Right-click on it and choose 'Run As Administrator' _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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timo_75 Jammer

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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I just tried that. Unfortunately the problem persists. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Can you start Ableton Live as administrator via right-click? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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timo_75 Jammer

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| I'm using Studio One. I can start that as Admin, yes. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you start Studio One as admin, can you still not adjust thread priority of jamstix.exe in task manager? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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