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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:49 am Post subject: OSX Issues |
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Hi Ralph,
(from e-mail)
I managed to find the manuals, they get installed into ~/username/Library/Application Support/Jamstix 3/data/docs. Better if said folder was installed to a folder in Applications, or ~/username/Documents for easy find.
A few issues I note on first use…
OS X installer installs plug-in formats to incorrect directory paths. One would expect those to be installed to /Library/Audio/"respective plug-in format folder" and /Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio/Plug-Ins for AXX, instead of ~/username/Audio/Plug-Ins for AU and VST and ~/username/Application Support/JamstixInstall for AAX
AU and VST do not work correctly in Blue Cat Audio's Patchwork (Standalone). Upon launch the plug-in automatically goes into play with the plug-in sync'd to host by default with the lock engaged. There's no way to stop this unless you unlock, and I presume one would press the spacebar to stop(?), so it looks like key commands are not passed to the plug-in when hosted in this app. There's no play button, only RTZ, FFW and Rewind; a feature request for future update if one is using plug-in in standalone. Also to that effect one cannot play and populate the Song parts (1, 2, 3 etc…) by creating a song, you have to double click one of the listed in the wizard.
I do not see option in the Options tab to set a data path. Does this mean we cannot move data to an external hard drive, redirect?
There seems a short lag when clicking the Options tab to when the information appears.
I had my first crash too, which looks like an issue with Patchwork, so let me know and i'll pass this onto Guilliaume (CEO) and Fred (technical support) to take a look…
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OS Version: 10.8.5 (Build 12F45)
Architecture: x86_64
Report Version: 11
Command: Blue Cat's PatchWork
Path: /Applications/Blue Cat's PatchWork.app/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat's PatchWork
Version: ??? ("1.61")
Parent: launchd [157]
PID: 4062
Event: hang
Duration: 1.68s
Steps: 17 (100ms sampling interval)
Hardware model: MacPro5,1
Active cpus: 24
Free pages: 187843 pages (-1008)
Pageins: 4 pages
Pageouts: 0 pages
Process: Blue Cat's PatchWork [4062]
Path: /Applications/Blue Cat's PatchWork.app/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat's PatchWork
Architecture: x86_64
Parent: launchd [157]
UID: 501
Task size: 15020 pages
CPU Time: 0.032s
Thread 0xc26bf DispatchQueue 1 priority 47
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 5252) [0x100001484]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 7241) [0x100001c49]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4414881) [0x100435da1]
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17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4374005) [0x10042bdf5]
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*17 psynch_mtxcontinue + 0 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80005bc650]
Thread 0xc270f DispatchQueue 2 priority 49
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17 kevent + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926bed16]
*17 ??? (mach_kernel + 3504704) [0xffffff8000557a40]
Thread 0xc2741 priority 47 cpu time 0.007s
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17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 2652594) [0x1002879b2]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 3629179) [0x10037607b]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4390676) [0x10042ff14]
17 __psynch_cvwait + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926be0fa]
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17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4390710) [0x10042ff36]
17 __psynch_cvwait + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926be0fa]
*17 psynch_cvcontinue + 0 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80005bdcb0]
Thread 0xc276e priority 97
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17 _pthread_start + 327 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db8f772]
17 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 175 (CoreMIDI) [0x10091280f]
17 XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 10 (CoreMIDI) [0x100912c2c]
17 MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 243 (CoreMIDI) [0x10092db23]
17 XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 96 (CoreMIDI) [0x100911970]
17 mach_msg_trap + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926bc686]
*17 ipc_mqueue_receive_continue + 0 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff8000213030]
Thread 0xc2778 priority 47 cpu time 0.008s
17 thread_start + 13 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db7c1a1]
17 _pthread_start + 327 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db8f772]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4327656) [0x1004208e8]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 2652594) [0x1002879b2]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 3629179) [0x10037607b]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4390676) [0x10042ff14]
17 __psynch_cvwait + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926be0fa]
*17 psynch_cvcontinue + 0 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80005bdcb0]
Thread 0xc27de priority 97
17 thread_start + 13 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db7c1a1]
17 _pthread_start + 327 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db8f772]
17 HALB_IOThread::Entry(void*) + 75 (CoreAudio) [0x7fff8db42497]
17 HALC_ProxyIOContext::IOThreadEntry(void*) + 83 (CoreAudio) [0x7fff8db425bf]
17 HALC_ProxyIOContext::IOWorkLoop() + 2439 (CoreAudio) [0x7fff8db42fd7]
17 AUHAL::AUIOProc(unsigned int, AudioTimeStamp const*, AudioBufferList const*, AudioTimeStamp const*, AudioBufferList*, AudioTimeStamp const*, void*) + 2029 (CoreAudio) [0x110477c63]
17 AUBase::DoRender(unsigned int&, AudioTimeStamp const&, unsigned int, unsigned int, AudioBufferList&) + 429 (CoreAudio) [0x110470aed]
17 AUBase::DoRenderBus(unsigned int&, AudioTimeStamp const&, unsigned int, AUOutputElement*, unsigned int, AudioBufferList&) + 127 (CoreAudio) [0x1104723a1]
17 AUConverterBase::RenderBus(unsigned int&, AudioTimeStamp const&, unsigned int, unsigned int) + 413 (CoreAudio) [0x110474839]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 1976972) [0x1001e2a8c]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 1960629) [0x1001deab5]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4676998) [0x100475d86]
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17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 2037609) [0x1001f1769]
17 ??? (Blue Cat's PatchWork + 4368630) [0x10042a8f6]
17 JuceVSTWrapper::processReplacing(float**, float**, int) + 600 (Jamstix) [0x11353bf82]
17 RZTJamstixAudioProcessor::processBlock(juce::AudioSampleBuffer&, juce::MidiBuffer&) + 1561 (Jamstix) [0x113487ac5]
17 sem_wait + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib) [0x7fff926bf112]
*17 hndl_unix_scall64 + 19 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002cf453]
*17 unix_syscall64 + 522 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80005e97ba]
*17 sem_wait_nocancel + 179 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80005b5243]
*17 ??? (mach_kernel + 213751) [0xffffff80002342f7]
*17 thread_block_reason + 300 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff800022db9c]
*17 ??? (mach_kernel + 190673) [0xffffff800022e8d1]
*17 machine_switch_context + 366 (mach_kernel) [0xffffff80002b496e]
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17 _pthread_start + 327 (libsystem_c.dylib) [0x7fff8db8f772]
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17 juce::Timer::TimerThread::run() + 133 (Jamstix) [0x1134af045]
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Also, is there a pref to automatically set notes on bar one to be exactly on the bar for drag/drop to host? I’m often missing notes as they’re I guess played behind the bar (relaxed), and thus are missing from the exported MIDI clip. Further, sometimes the notes are shifted to bar 2 in error and duplicated with other notes played, causing that identifiable phased sound, two notes of same kit piece played at the same time.
And, I think there's an issue with the GUI not keeping position when you open it and drag it around the screen in Pro Tools 11.x. It may be a Retina display issue, but the GUI doesn't attach to the plug-in window, it moves inside and jumps about. I hope that makes sense.
Thanks in advance for reply.
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Ashley, sorry about the delay to your inquiries! I'll get back to you as soon as I can. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Any news Ralph? Thanks. The main issue is the pref for aligning hits of a groove to the downbeat exactly for drag/drop.
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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I do not see option in the Options tab to set a data path. Does this mean we cannot move data to an external hard drive, redirect?
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If this becomes necessary, please move the folder '~/Library/Application Support/Jamstix3' to the desired location and then edit the file '~/Music/Jamstix3/sllink.txt' to reflect the new path.
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The main issue is the pref for aligning hits of a groove to the downbeat exactly for drag/drop.
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In the 'Feel' section of the brain, if you set the pocket to zero (middle position) and 'Timing Vary' to zero (all the way left), all hits should align on beat but you will loose the human timing feel. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Thanks!
I don't wish to lose the human feel, just move the "first note(s)" of a/the groove to bar 1. Currently, when you drag/drop to host, the first notes are cut because behind the bar (I presume) or they are shifted to bar 2, causing doubled notes that phase. This is a bug! I don't know what's happening to cause this? Help appreciated from yourself or any other user with more experience of the soft please...
Any info re the crash and the GUI not connected when moving window around... PT 11 and 12, OS X?
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Anyone able to help with this issue/comment how I can fix it?
Any other users on the forum that can point me in the right direction for drag/drop? ...122 views. Help.
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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| Ashley_Smith wrote: | Currently, when you drag/drop to host, the first notes are cut because behind the bar (I presume) or they are shifted to bar 2, causing doubled notes that phase.
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Are you doing drag/drop of bars, parts or the whole song? Are you doing it for hand-editing the MIDI?
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Any info re the crash and the GUI not connected when moving window around... PT 11 and 12, OS X?
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We're trying to improve the window logic but the core issue is that the GUI server runs in a separate process from the plugin and OSX does not allow attaching a window from one process to another (like Windows). As a result, we must overlay/move the GUI with the plugin window. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Hey Ralph, thanks, sorry if this is taking you away from developments... I just can't get it to work.
This is drag/drop of parts to the host, for further editing, yes! I'd like the grooves to all have a defined start, with notes/events writ precisely at bar 1 for the down beat and for loop... but obviously nothing else in the groove touched, so human feel remains throughout.
For some reason as I say, either notes/events are missing from the start on drag/drop, or worse they are shifted to bar 2 and overlap notes there (causing phasing).
Cheers,
Ash
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Can't really replicate this as far as missing/shifted notes goes.
Please do this:
- play the whole song through (or bounce/mixdown to makes this faster)
- use MIDI Export in song menu to get a MID file of the whole song
- import MID file into host and see if notes are present properly _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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Ashley_Smith Junior Jammer

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Hi Ralph,
I'm still seeing this issue and having more besides... such as:
- Doubled notes when previewing the current bar in a loop, on the song page
- I can't get a simple pattern to play/be created, and randomisation often doesn't work to change the pattern. It's creating patterns that are out of context to the previous bar of a song, even in a structured 4 bar verse it's just riffing and playing beats that you wouldn't hear in a typical song format.
- Drag and drop is snapping to the playhead marker with Pro Tools AAX. I.e. I can't drag/drop where I want in the timeline freehand, I have to first set the playhead where I want to drop it.
- The interface is always focused when open, and stays in focus when you hide Pro Tools.
- I hear glitches with playback at 1024 buffer, using internal samples, and I'm on a robust 2.8Ghz i7 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM (2014).
- Changing parameter settings for grooves doesn't update performance.
I'm having a bad time getting things to work, possibly my error but I feel there are a few bugs.
Can you drop me a line and we can catch up via e-mail or do a Skype session to work through these issues, please?
Thanks!
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