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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:33 am    Post subject: why can't I use the read/write function? Reply with quote

Hi, been trying to reduce the dynamics of the drummer during a middle eight but JS doesn't respond to the write function, I turned the dynamics knob down during playback whilst in write mode but on playback it ignores the command...
can anyone tell me why please?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not 100% certain, but I don't believe that Jamstix sends the automation parameters to the host for writing. Which host are you using? Do you have a MIDI controller? The reason I ask is because you should be able to map an external control to be sent to Jamstix and write within the host as you control it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for your reply, you've lost me with the technospeak..I apologise for not understanding what your talking about.
as a consequence of not being able to write some softer dynamics I discovered the redirection facility which got me round the problem and is just awesome..will be using this tool a lot more in the future

If you have the time or the inclination to write a step by step idiots guide to what you suggest I would be extremely appreciative..

thanks again...Kevin
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am happy to help

I guess we could start here...
jas_lan wrote:
Which host are you using? Do you have a MIDI controller?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, sorry, i failed to answer that question from your last post, I'm using Cubase 7.5.3 and if you mean a midi keyboard then yes...

thank you for your help.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Cubase, make sure you have a MIDI track that is routed to Jamstix. In the Track Quick Controls, there should be parameters mapped to Dynamics, Reduction, and Power Level. Click the "Learn" button for the Dynamics parameter and then move one of the knobs on your MIDI controller. This should auto-map it. Now, use the controller knob to change the Dynamics instead of using the knob in the Jamstix GUI. To record (or "Write") the automation be sure to click the "W" button in Cubase while the song is playing and you are moving the knob.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK..problem, my MIDI keyboard does not have any "knobs" to turn, it's just a full size piano that happens to have a MIDI output, I would appreciate any suggestions which MIDI controller to buy,

In my quick controls, (which I have never seen until you suggested them) I was able to apply power level and reduction but cannot find "dynamics"

Your clearly way above my head at the moment and if you want to give up on me I totally understand, but I would like to get to the bottom of this..

do I need to buy a "proper" midi controller?

thanks for your time and patience..Kevin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Sorry. I thought Dynamics was one of the Automatable parameters in Jamstix but I looked and I also, only have Power Level, Reduction, Timing, and Bypass. Unfortunately, Dynamics is not an automatable parameter in Jamstix. So, there is no way to record any automation for it. As for your question about MIDI controllers, they are many and it depends on what you want. I have the Axiom Pro, which has keys, knobs, sliders, and pads and can control quite a lot of stuff in Cubase including the mixer, Transport, and VST instruments and effects. You can get some without keys and there are even some for tablets than can connect with WIFI to Cubase (I have TouchDAW Free for my Android device but I don't really use it much). For the mixer, I mostly just use the mouse but the MIDI controller is most helpful for controlling parameters on the VST instruments while playing since they are right there on the controller and you don't have to reach for the mouse. Novation makes a controller that even has an X-Y touchpad that can control the "Sphere" in the HALion instruments. Native Instruments just released one that is designed to integrate with their products. The Akai MPK series also seem popular although I have read that the keys and pads are very "heavy". If you just want knobs, there are a few "nano" controllers from Korg that are small, simple, and inexpensive (I think I saw one at Guitar Center for $69).
Anyway, take your time, do some research, and decide what you really need and want.

I also wanted to mention that, for those parameters that ARE automatable in Jamstix (i.e. the power level), even though you can't write from within the Jamstix GUI, you CAN still write automation from Cubase using the Quick controls WITHOUT a MIDI controller. Just assign the Quick Control to the parameter, click the Write button and use the mouse to move the Quick Control during playback. The difference is that the data is changing within Cubase so it can be written as automation and then sent to Jamstix. When you move the knobs in the Jamstix GUI, the data is NOT being sent back to Cubase to be written. You can see this in action during playback by experimenting. If you move the Quick Control in Cubase, the corresponding parameter (i.e. Power Level knob) will "follow" in the Jamstix GUI. But, if you move the knob in the Jamstix GUI, the Quick Control will NOT follow (because the data is not being sent back to Cubase). Maybe this ability is something that Ralph is considering for Jamstix 4.

I am happy to help if you have any other questions....
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't thank you enough for your patience and help Smile

It seems that I should get something similar to what you have because I would like to catch up with the technical aspect of whats available, can you just confirm that with something like this I would also be able to control volume and expression on strings, for instance.

and thanks for the tip regarding the automation using the quick control.

thank you very much, my best regards to you...Kevin
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether or not you can control volume and expression of strings depends on the instrument itself but most VST instruments should have the option to assign MIDI control knobs for these. I have HALion and Komplete and I know both of those can do it. One other thing I thought I would mention (since you mentioned expression) is an Expression Pedal Input. The Axiom Pro has this and many other MIDI controller keyboards have them as well. It is a cable input for a pedal (like a volume or Wah pedal). This pedal can then be assigned to ANY controllable parameter. I primarily use mine for Wah or Volume in Guitar Rig. You could use it to control expression on the strings while you play to keep your hands on the keyboard.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks..so will be sure to get one that has an expression pedal input..

your very helpful and a credit to this forum...Kevin
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help!
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