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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is: we're working on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Will Jamstix ever be ported to MAC ? Reply with quote

I'm seriously thinking about switching to MAC soon. All my VSTs have a MAC version... except Jamstix. Checking the forums I was somewhat discouraged by the fact that the MAC version had been announced for the end of 2009. The Wine solution doesn't interest me. I want to go to the MAC platform to stop messing with drivers and workarounds.

I love Jamstix and use it on all my compositions to drive Superior Drummer. I never want to go back to EZPlayer or any other similar composing tool for drums. So I guess I won't be able to switch to MAC until Jamstix is available for MacOs.('Rolling Eyes')
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Me too.. Reply with quote

I switched to mac a few months ago and have been really unproductive since I did. Jamstix is just such a fundamental part of my writing.

I know that there is an OSX workaround, but I haven't had the time/mental bandwidth to address that yet.

Please Ralph - any update or rough ETA?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

been using jamstix since 2006 and a mac version was never really of interest but now i have a new mac arriving today it is. : )
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using Windows since W95 but I just ordered a new MacBook pro because I need firewire. Jamstix is the only thing I will be keeping a windows setup for.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windoze supports firewire too. What product are you using with firewire? Or is the problem that your firewire gizmo doesn't have a Windoze counterpart?

If it's about speed, USB2 is actually faster than firewire.
Firewire is ~400Mb/S
USB2 is ~480Mb/S.
USB3, if anybody ever gets around to making USB3 stuff, is something like 7 times faster than USB2.
USBX, which I just made up, works via telepathy so it's smokin' fast. Ooops. Nobody was supposed to know about that...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamim2 wrote:
Windoze supports firewire too. What product are you using with firewire? Or is the problem that your firewire gizmo doesn't have a Windoze counterpart?

If it's about speed, USB2 is actually faster than firewire.
Firewire is ~400Mb/S
USB2 is ~480Mb/S.
USB3, if anybody ever gets around to making USB3 stuff, is something like 7 times faster than USB2.
USBX, which I just made up, works via telepathy so it's smokin' fast. Ooops. Nobody was supposed to know about that...




USB2 has a technical throughput of greater than 1394A, but is requires "micro"-managing by the CPU and in practice, rarely outperforms FW. FW is a much more process friendly network interface, as the hardware looks after much of the polling and communication protocol stuff.

RME have the right idea -use 1394B (FW800) and turbocharge it! Smile




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

planetnine_ wrote:
bamim2 wrote:
Windoze supports firewire too. What product are you using with firewire? Or is the problem that your firewire gizmo doesn't have a Windoze counterpart?

If it's about speed, USB2 is actually faster than firewire.
Firewire is ~400Mb/S
USB2 is ~480Mb/S.
USB3, if anybody ever gets around to making USB3 stuff, is something like 7 times faster than USB2.
USBX, which I just made up, works via telepathy so it's smokin' fast. Ooops. Nobody was supposed to know about that...


USB2 has a technical throughput of greater than 1394A, but is requires "micro"-managing by the CPU and in practice, rarely outperforms FW. FW is a much more process friendly network interface, as the hardware looks after much of the polling and communication protocol stuff.

RME have the right idea -use 1394B (FW800) and turbocharge it! Smile



Yep, Firewire 400 in practice is definitely better than USB2, given equivalent peripherals (and a crowded bus). Plus you can push up to 40W DC over it.

And I'm not sure where he gets the idea nobody's making USB3 stuff? Hasn't been shopping lately, maybe.

What we really want is Thunderbolt... 10 Gb/S per device (though only 10W DC)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamim2 wrote:
Windoze supports firewire too.


I emailed Rain Computers to ask if they had a laptop with firewire that copes with audio. They don't.

I've ordered a STEINBERG MR816 CSX and a YAMAHA MOTIF RACK XS with the YAMAHA FW16E FIREWIRE EXPANSION..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, all. I just wanted to stand up and be counted here. Jamstix is a brilliant, inspiring, and truly unique program - but a real pita to use the Mac hack! Will 2013 be the year for a Jamstix Mac version?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
I hope an OSX version this year. It's the only product to need my old PC version and i was not able to synchronize the hack version with logic.
If it need to pay additionnal bucks to get it (in a reasonable meaning), i will do it.
So i made a pray every day as i take a look on the jamstix page site...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zenasium wrote:
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So i made a pray every day as i take a look on the jamstix page site...


I've been doing this for 2 1/2 years now, since originally posting in this thread...

I bought JS3 as an act of faith, I've never used it. It's just sitting in my user area, along with Jamcussion & the expansion packs I also paid for.

Just being willing to put up with this is a testament to how much we like your software, Ralph - but really, something besides the same "We're working on it." statement would be nice. Some kind of progress report, or screenshot of whatever you have...anything would be reassuring at this point.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW - After a long long run with cubase and windows, I bought a mac and am using logic for our next album. I miss jamstix! There's nothing like it and the jamstix brain that triggers BFD2 in AU would be a great leap in a new direction...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

checking here all the time for an update on a mac version. the only software i miss from windows. : (

at the moment i would be happy with a 2006 version of jamstix that worked on the mac than wait for a version 3. : )
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is where we are: the non-visual aspects of Jamstix OSX are working quite well in the internal Betas. The visual interface is having serious issues, including unacceptable CPU usage. These problems are in a 3rd party framework that we are using. We have spent enormous time trying to solve those issues and waiting for the vendor to fix/improve them as well. Since we can't wait any longer, we are now rebuilding the visual interface with a different framework from another vendor, which appears to be much faster and efficient. I cannot estimate time for this task properly as it depends on any migration issues that the new framework might throw at us.

The good news is that A.I., audio engine, data management, song structures etc. are all working on OSX by now so things are progressing. We just have to get the interface done and then we can go Beta with you guys.
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