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[jasperhb_]

I've spend hours trying to instruct Jamstix 3.5 to play the intro of The Beatles "Come Together". I got the kick to play ok, and sort of likewise with the short high-hat (4 triple hits) that follows, but the tom roll I never managed to get down. Again the toms sound like they are thirds or sixths.

The editor was no good at either the high-hat or the toms because they are triplets, which I don't know how to program (can I?). Instead I used the Learn function to record in the part from MIDI file and play back the MIDI file into Jamstrix. Unfortuately not all of the tom-hits would be learned?!

I had the "MIDI qualtize" option disabled. I tried with 83 bpm and 166 bpm.

Any advice would be much appreciated, so would a Jamstix Song with just the intro so that I can see how it's done?

I'm kinda stuck here. Unfortunately, this is most often what happens when I try to use Jamstix to make a cover of a song. Maybe I just havn't figured Jamstix out yet? Anyhow, this is unfortunate as I'd like to use Jamstix in a way where Jamstix adds "real drummer feeling" (to a hard quantized midi file of the part(s) or similar) while still maintaining enough control to stay true to the original structure of a songs fundamental parts.

Thanks

[Ralph [RZ]]

The key to 8th triplets in the editor is to place three notes on the first, second and third tick of a quarter note block (4 ticks) and then marking the second and third note SHUFFLE|FORCED using the bar editor menu.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[jasperhb_]

[alexis]

I've got the same song ("Come Together") loaded up as a guide for one I'm working on, and I also have a question please re: the toms:

I cannot make the JS3.3 toms sound as: soft ... muffled ... controlled as the ones on that record. The JS3.3 ones in my hands just sound so "boingy". I tried various combinations of turning the kit volume down, turning the bar editor volume down, playing with the ambience, playing with the dampening, and I just can't get it right.

I know adjectives can exasperatingly imprecise, but the above is the best I can do ... Jasperhb_ , did you get that sound down during your mockup? Can anyone else help me here - specific knob positions on specific controls? I would be so grateful ... thank you!
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Alexis
JS 3.6.1x64; Cubase 7.5.40 64 bit; i5-4570 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM; W7 SP1 64-bit on Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB; Seagate 1TB SATA 600 Audio Drive; UR28M; Motif8; UAD-2 Solo, BCF2K; TC Helicon VoiceOne; RevoicePro3

[jasperhb_]

[Ralph [RZ]]

The toms in the original have very short sustain (heavy tape use and head type). I'd recommend using the JS2 toms (Studio X), dampen them in the kit editor, EQ and compress to match.
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[alexis]

[alexis]

Yes, Ralph that kit is MUCH better for this purpose (I'm not trying to do that song, just to get that tom sound). Thank you!

BTW, this is how I swapped out toms, just wondering if it was reasonably efficient or if there is a much better way:

1) I had Mapex XL loaded.
2) I deleted all the toms.
3) I loaded the JS2 kit you mentioned, but put the filter to "toms only".
4) Renamed ("Save") the "hybrid" kit.

So now the displayed kit is Mapex XL, except for the toms, which are Studio X.

OK way to do it? Thx!
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Alexis
JS 3.6.1x64; Cubase 7.5.40 64 bit; i5-4570 3.2GHz, 16GB RAM; W7 SP1 64-bit on Samsung SSD 840 Pro 256GB; Seagate 1TB SATA 600 Audio Drive; UR28M; Motif8; UAD-2 Solo, BCF2K; TC Helicon VoiceOne; RevoicePro3

[Ralph [RZ]]

Ok way to do but you could have skipped deleting the toms. The toms-only load overrides them anyway.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[alexis]