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Guitarfish · Jamologist Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108

I've just built a new Windows 7 x64 DAW and am now busily installing / testing software.

So far looking pretty good - JS3.2 seems to be running inside Cubase Studio 5 without me doing anything extra to 'bridge' to 64 bit.

My only issue at the moment with JS3 is that the Jamcussion output appears to be always routed to ch 1. I've tried changing this in the 'Kit' menu in both Drumset and Jamcussion mode, and although I can tick 'Ch 7', the actual output stays in Ch 1. Have also closed / re-opened Cubase in case it's picked up on loading but still no joy.

I'm using 'set out routing 8' for the main kit if that makes any difference. Any suggestions?

jas_lan · Rayzoon Beta Team Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 676

Do you have the "Downmix" button selected on the mixer panel?
HTH
J.L.
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Guitarfish · Jamologist Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108

Good thought, but no - that's not it Sad

The main kit is routed to all 8 channels as per the default for 'set out routing 8'. This includes routing the percussion (from the main kit) to channel 7.

But the percussion from Jamcussion is all being sent to Ch 1, so is mixed with the kick from the main kit. 'Just in case' I checked whether you can set 'Downmix' independently for the main kit and Jamcussion, but you can't - change it in either one and it affects both.

Incidentally, while testing I just happened to through together 'Chad - funky song' with the 'Darbuka' Jamcussion kit and 'Middle Eastern' style. Great combo! Cool

Now I just need to prise apart the percussion from the kick drum and I can have some fun with it... Confused

jas_lan · Rayzoon Beta Team Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 676

OK. Not sure about it but, just to cover all the bases, confirm the following.
Opened the VST Instrument Rack and opened Jamstix in a slot (vice inserting an Instrument track). Then activated all outputs from the Instrument Rack.
After selecting your kits, set ouput routing 8.
Make sure "Downmix" is off.
Are you getting sound in the other channels (i.e. 2,3,4,etc.)?
HTH
J.L.
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Guitarfish · Jamologist Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108

Pretty sure there is some weird stuff not happening as intended here. Confused

Did as you suggested and set output routing after selecting kits and JS changed all the individual kit assignments to ch 7, and they played through ch 7! Cool

Still not quite what I expected as I thought the individual kit assignments wouldn't change but just get hijacked by the overall routing. But 'whatever' - it got the sound to where I wanted it!

Just to check the behaviour out a bit more I tried setting Jamcussion out to 'Always Ch4' and repeating the experiment. After setting overall output routing to 8 all Jamcussion assignments had changed to ch 7!

This is where I want'em so not a big deal for me but I think the Jamcussion routing behaviour has become a bit glitchy...

Thanks Jas for getting me to a workaround!

jas_lan · Rayzoon Beta Team Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 676

Glad you got it working.
I'm not certain what was intended but as far as I can tell the kit pieces go to the output as they are assigned in the lower pane when that piece is selected.
You can change these manually, one by one, or, change all of them at once based on an overall output scheme by selecting one of the "Output Routing Options" from the drop down menu next to the kit name.
In other words, think of the "Output Routing Options" as a macro that actuallly changes the routing of each kit piece based on the scheme so that you don't have to change them each individually.
The output of each kit piece is saved with the kit. If you want to keep a particular routing when loading a new kit, you can select "lock outputs" before loading the kit and it should keep alll the pieces going to the same outputs (never used it, I just always had the habit of selecting the output routing scheme after loading the kit to make sure everything went where I wanted it).
HTH
J.L.
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Guitarfish · Jamologist Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 108

Yeah, I figured it must be working something along those lines. I'd expected the 'always to Ch x' it to override the default settings, not change them, but either way works.

I still suspect that the 'macro' isn't working as intended. It doesn't seem to run when you make the selection - only after you change the routing on the main kit. And it still doesn't seem to work if you select 'Always to Ch 4' but somehow does pick up 'Always to ch 7' (but that could be just 'cos o/p 8 routes to percussion to Ch7 anyway).

Anyway, I have it where I want for the time being, but posted this in case anyone else is having trouble...