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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: Jamstix in use: problems and suggestions |
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Hi Ralph. I believe this is the longest time without an update, are there any news going on?
Meanwhile I'm now definitely finalizing a project and I can't think working the drums without JS. But there are still some problems that arise during deeper usage, so I'm listing what I found in the last days. Some are old, some are new found by me.
1) One that’s ´bugging´ me a lot: sometimes elements manually inserted (Snare Mode, Kick Mode, Open Hat End, etc) can’t be removed or disabled. I built parts with almost every available element so I can use them when needed (I finally found the bst way for me to work, I must say), but sometimes I have to remove or at least disable some, and I lost control over their headers. Closing and reopening the project works, but it's boring to interrupt the work flow.
2) Many controls don’t show their value in info bar (i.e. Classic Controls Kick/Snare probability slider), or compete with the element information and end up not showing, and this feedback is very important. There could b some routine to block the element description while moving a control.
3) The amount in the ´Toms´ accent element does not control the amount of toms, but the amount of bars in which they appear. The behavior is different and inconsistent with other elements (and gives this element very little usability, IMHO).
4) When I add an element to ´Groove´ or ´Accent´, the fill settings are reset. I expected the fill settings not to be altered.
5) Fine tuning most controls is very erratic and mousewheel only works when it wants, I can’t find a reproducible pattern of when it works.
6) Lasso is still very hard to use precisely. It only shows when it wraps an existing cell, and even so, not always.
7) Right-click + Drag changes the velocity in Classic Controls Kick/Snare and the luminosity changes accordingly. But when you change the Display Contrast, cells reset their light.
8) When I change velocity of cells, as well as hihat openness, in the Bar Editor with mousewheel (when it works), info bar shows me what I’m setting in percent, but when I hover, it shows me in MIDI velocity value , which is preferable in my opinion. Anyway, I believe they should use the same reference, I’d like it to always show MIDI value, but in case someone else prefers in percent, this could be optional. But, please, make them use the same scale, it's been a source of a lot of confusion in my work.
9) As I have mentioned in another thread, the Kit tab is great visually, but crating a custom map takes so much longer than in Jamstix 2. Anyway, on thing that would help a lot would be to support mousewheel in both ´Articulation´ selector and ´Key´ selector. This would speed up the creation and modification a lot.
10) Renaming an element causes problems if I insert spaces or other symbols in the name. I want to rename one ´Kick´ control to ´Kick Odd´, for instance, but it destroys the interface and all the controls of the tab disappear or get messed. Only restarting the project solves this.
A few requests:
a) Fills and Jamcussion tutorials would be fantastic, I use Jamstix for some years already and I struggle to customize them both in an acceptable level.
b)´Freeze´ mode could work when using ´MIDI Out Only´ too.
c) Simple stripped down Custom and Drummer would be very nice.
d) In the same spirit, I would like to be able to add a set of elements (i.e. Open Hats, Open Hat End and Swung Hats) to any part without adding one by one. Because there are some sets of elements that combine with each other and could be grouped together. This way I could try them with many different styles. I know it's no a small request, but maybe there's a better way to add many elements quickly to a groove or accent, the current way is impractical.
Despite the long post, Jamstix and WIVI (which I just got and can't recommend enough) are to me the most revolutionary and original VSTi's of all times and brilliant pieces of genius invention.
Thanks! |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Lot's to chew on, thank you! I'll give you a detailed response next week. Some of these things will be definitely be fixed soon. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | Lot's to chew on, thank you! I'll give you a detailed response next week. Some of these things will be definitely be fixed soon. |
Great to hear from you. Thanks! |
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Ralph. Not my intention to overload you with suggestions, but there are a few more I just thought worthy to mention in this topic.
1) When the song changes part, it would be nice if parts would keep the position when coming back to the part being edited before. Sometimes, while looping a song to feel the edits in context, I don't have time to scroll down before the part changes again.
2) Reordering elements would be an excellent addition.
3) And the one I'd love most, instead of using knobs for common parameters (amount, power and priority), use sliders and make elements on line only. That would help populated styles organization a lot.
Thanks for your support! |
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DaveElson Jam Meister

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Can I ask what WIVI is? |
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Azimuth Moderator & Beta Team

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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: |
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acabreira: things we will address in the next update:
- brain element header renaming issues
- brain element reordering
- missing value notices for brain controls
Other issues:
- 'Tom' accent elements are style/drummer specific and often will affect specific bar areas only. Thus, 100% amount does not mean all areas of the bar will be filled.
- use SHIFT to fine tune knobs
All other issues I will look into. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | acabreira: things we will address in the next update:
- brain element header renaming issues
- brain element reordering
- missing value notices for brain controls
Other issues:
- 'Tom' accent elements are style/drummer specific and often will affect specific bar areas only. Thus, 100% amount does not mean all areas of the bar will be filled.
- use SHIFT to fine tune knobs
All other issues I will look into. |
Great, Ralph, important fixes coming on.
Even using SHIFT, fine tuning is not precise. usually when I reach the value I want, as I drop the mouse button, it goes one value up or down. I mean, an extremely small and involuntary movement in the end will change the final value.
Just to emphasize, I'd love you to take a careful look at points 4 and 8
Thank you very much! |
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Bojo_ Junior Jammer

Joined: 29 Jun 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| acabreira wrote: | | Ralph [RZ] wrote: | acabreira: things we will address in the next update:
- brain element header renaming issues
- brain element reordering
- missing value notices for brain controls
Other issues:
- 'Tom' accent elements are style/drummer specific and often will affect specific bar areas only. Thus, 100% amount does not mean all areas of the bar will be filled.
- use SHIFT to fine tune knobs
All other issues I will look into. |
Great, Ralph, important fixes coming on.
Even using SHIFT, fine tuning is not precise. usually when I reach the value I want, as I drop the mouse button, it goes one value up or down. I mean, an extremely small and involuntary movement in the end will change the final value.
Just to emphasize, I'd love you to take a careful look at points 4 and 8
Thank you very much! |
I also have this problem. For me, shift is what I would consider coarse. |
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Any news on the update, Ralph? |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Still working on it, sorry  _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
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No problem, just a little anxious  |
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