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Veech_
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheppol_A wrote:
You must stick with it as there's no other program like JS and once the,"Penny Drops" you'll be flying along.I could not go back to hand midi drum programming,way too slow.

Check out Ben Vesco's tutorial.It's for the older JS2 but lots of still valid info to get going,

http://www.benvesco.com/blog/home-studio/2008/jamstix-2-tutorial-1-your-own-studio-drummer/

His page is a must read anyway if you are just getting,""back in the saddle" and using Recording software,

http://www.benvesco.com/blog/tracking/

Well worth a bookmark Smile


Excellent stuff, great link.. thank you! Putting together a complete song with fills, breaks, choruses etc was fairly tedious in EZDrummer although I really liked the sounds. Discussions over at the Reaper forum led me here.

I do need to understand a bit more how Jamstix and EZDrummer work together.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veech_ wrote:
But I love creating music and I'm so fascinated by what is possible that it's all good fun and such a great feeling when I finally get it all working together.


Pleased to hear you're trying to make music rather than "prodooozing".
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bagatell_ wrote:
Veech_ wrote:
But I love creating music and I'm so fascinated by what is possible that it's all good fun and such a great feeling when I finally get it all working together.


Pleased to hear you're trying to make music rather than "prodooozing".


That's the thing I enjoy most, basically jamming and creating some type of song while a drummer plays along. If I could combine the ease of composition of Jamstix and the great sounds in EZDrummer, I'd be in great shape here.

So now that I've shown Jamstix where the Toontrack .dll is, they are linking up and I am finally able to select toontrack drums when playing a song in Jam stix. Looks like this might come together for me after all.

Is recording crippled in the demo? I haven't figured out yet how to get a song tracked into Reaper using Jamstix+EZDrummer.

Still I am making progress, baby steps at a time.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The demo will only put out kick notes via midi so you will only get a kick drum out of EZ Drummer. You can record the audio out of the JS demo but it will have intermittent noise added to the signal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote=Is recording crippled in the demo? I haven't figured out yet how to get a song tracked into Reaper using Jamstix+EZDrummer.

Still I am making progress, baby steps at a time.[/quote]



There is several different ways to set this up in reaper, but with the demo your limited. I believe you can keep the jamstix song composition completely within jamstix and not actually "record" it to a track. The Jamstix song will stay synch'd to the host so as long as it is playing the parts the way you like them when you hit play you can leave the drums inside JS. When you render the project it will record the audio into the mix. I do believe the demo however puts random noise in there. I could be wrong about this and if so I hope im corrected, but I believe you can use Js this way. Of course with the full version, you can set it up in many ways, recording the midi to a track, audio to a track, and have multichannel output into reaper etc. You can either subhost it, or have it route midi to a seperate instance of EZD, either on the same track or different tracks.. Lots of options. I had to just fiddle with them untill I found the best one for me.
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