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Jamxtix 3 and Superior Drummer

 
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reginald_kson
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Jamxtix 3 and Superior Drummer Reply with quote

I've just started with this program and while I can see the possibilities, I've been frustrated with my purchase.

I bought this program to "drive" my Superior Drummer. I am unable to do so - so far. Does anyone know how to accomplish this (in detail)? I am using Sonar X1, but it is more about the JS than the DAW.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Reaper, but the workflow with X1 should be similar (I started to make a custom skin for Jamstix, so don't mind the "strange" look).

1. Create a new track and put JS in it.



2. Open JS and create a song. Click "Wizard" button, then click "Create song" button.

3. Go to "KIT" tab and click on "Standard" kit to change it.



4. In the kit selection window, scroll down to find the "Toontrack" thread. Click small "+" to unfold it. Choose one of possible kits. Load it by clicking "OK".



5. If you haven't used SD2 before from JS, JS will ask you to point to the SD2 VSTi (dll). Find it somewhere in your filesystem, select it and confirm. After everything is done, this is how "KIT" window should look (or something similar).



6. Go to "MIXER" tab, open the menu and select one of output routings. Note that only 8 output channels are visible in JS mixer view. JS can output to 16+1 output channels, though. Select the desired number of channels in "OPTIONS" tab. You can also downmix to stereo and/or choose to include/exclude ambient channel.



7. You can open the SD2 interface by clicking on module name and selecting "Open plugin interface", if you want to tweak SD2 mixer or kit pieces or whatever.



You will get your usual SD2 window inside JS "Configure VSTi" subwindow, like this



Now, start playback in your DAW and you should hear drums playing (note that there is a 1-bar silence if you used standard "Create song" button!).

As is the case with any complex tool, you need some time to learn using JS. Be patient, it's worth it!

HTH
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reginald_kson
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:10 am    Post subject: A hearty thank you... Reply with quote

A great thanks for the detailed explanation. I will dive into it on my next opportunity.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you set everything up, you'll get something like this Mr. Green:



All channels are routed from SD2 internal mixer, except "Percussions" channel, which is set up to receive audio from drumsticks and chimes directly from JS.
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reginald_kson
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Err, now do you know of any good starter videos?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Videos about Jamstix can be found on Youtube here.

There is a great Superior Drummer 2 Explained video tutorial on Groove3.com.

While there, you can also check Reaper Explained.

There are also some nice videos for Reaper here. Especially the one named Addictive Drums in Reaper – Record Multichannel Audio which explains how to route a VSTi to multiple channels and is applicable to JS as well.

Btw, there is a special offer at Groove3 to get 30-day free All-access pass. Check here.

HTH
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reginald_kson
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks man. You are a wealth of information. I have had SD for a while and am very familiar with it. I've been using Groove3 for my CW X1 videos as I don't use Reaper.

My main concern is digging into JS and seeing what it can do. I'll see if Groove3 has a JS tutorial.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perun_ZG

The skin in the illustrations above of Jamstix 3 have a flat grey skin rather than the more elaborate 3D metal appearance: is this a standard or custom skin?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tam_bour wrote:
Perun_ZG

The skin in the illustrations above of Jamstix 3 have a flat grey skin rather than the more elaborate 3D metal appearance: is this a standard or custom skin?


That's my try at custom skinning Jamstix. Far from finished yet, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perun_ZG wrote:
tam_bour wrote:
Perun_ZG

The skin in the illustrations above of Jamstix 3 have a flat grey skin rather than the more elaborate 3D metal appearance: is this a standard or custom skin?


That's my try at custom skinning Jamstix. Far from finished yet, though.
The amended grey parts look good.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tam_bour wrote:
Perun_ZG wrote:
tam_bour wrote:
Perun_ZG

The skin in the illustrations above of Jamstix 3 have a flat grey skin rather than the more elaborate 3D metal appearance: is this a standard or custom skin?


That's my try at custom skinning Jamstix. Far from finished yet, though.
The amended grey parts look good.


Thanks. I'll try to finish it as quickly as I can and share it here. Not the whole interface is skinnable yet, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perun_ZG wrote:
Thanks. I'll try to finish it as quickly as I can and share it here. Not the whole interface is skinnable yet, I'm afraid.
That would be great. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: I think I give up for now... Reply with quote

Too much going on here and no good video on how to get it started. I hope they clean up the next version to make it simpler to get going.

I'm sure it's great once you learn it but dang, I don't have that kind of time to dig in.

I need it to be intuitive, like Superior or Addictive.
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