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[Ralph [RZ]]

[timmyo]

At this stage I should just need internally generated events so I'll get racking - ta

Tim

[dto]

[dto]

Ahh -- I've got it now!

I was previously doing the following:

• Set Jamstix to have 4 outputs
  
• Map drums and cymbals to various Jamstix outputs
  
• Wrap Jamstix in a rack
  
• Connect outputs 1-4 from Jamstix to the respective output nodes in the rack
  
• Drop that rack in 4 different tracks
  
• In the rack properties for track #1, set "left output comes from" and "right output comes from" both to Output #1
  
• In the rack properties for track #2, set "left output comes from" and "right output comes from" both to Output #2
  
• Repeat for tracks #3 and #4
  

What works is to connect all 8 available output nodes in the 4th step above (not just the first 4), and then:

• In the rack properties for track #1, set "left output comes from" to Output #1 and "right output comes from" to Output #2
  
• In the rack properties for track #2, set "left output comes from" to Output #3 and "right output comes from" to Output #4
  
• In the rack properties for track #3, set "left output comes from" to Output #5 and "right output comes from" to Output #6
  
• In the rack properties for track #4, set "left output comes from" to Output #7 and "right output comes from" to Output #8
  

I know that's probably hard to read. Basically, I wasn't treating each Jamstix output in the rack as one-half of a stereo pair. However, with it set up like I describe above it works as advertised even using MIDI input.

Hopefully this helps someone else down the road.

[Ralph [RZ]]

Thanks, dto!
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[dto]

No problemo! I'm just happy everything works like it should in Tracktion.

[dto]

Okay, I've come across a few other weird things lately. Maybe Ralph or another user could comment in case I'm doing something obviously wrong.

1. When I open an existing project that has Jamstix alone in a rack, it first loads up all of the samples, but doesn't load the accents, rhythms and sample list. I have to specifically open the rack and bring up the Jamstix UI and it then starts loading those things. If I hit play without doing this first, Tracktion appears to lock up with the hourglass spinning, Jamstix then loads that remaining stuff, and then Tracktion never seems to unlock afterwards. I have to kill it and start it back up again.

2. Sometimes when I save a rhythm I get an Invalid Pointer Operation error. It doesn't always happen, but it seems that once I do get one of those I'll get one every time I save a rhythm during that session. Even so, it seems to save the rhythm just fine.

3. I have a project where a number of rhythms specify half-open hats on every quarter (1-4) as well as between each quarter (+). Each is set to Semi. It's been fine for a few days, but now when I play the project it instead plays a closed hat between every quarter (+). Even weirder is that when I render the project to a wav it plays it correctly.

4. That same project starts with a simple rhythm that just plays a closed hat on every quarter. It too has been just fine for a few days, but tonight it is silent every time I play the project. I went to the Output page and clicked Audit to see if the closed hat sample was loaded, and it was. Once again, though, when I render to wav it is there and plays fine.

Anyone else experience any of these kinds of things?

[dto]

Okay, I appear to have solved issues #3 and #4 in my previous post.

I discovered that if I muted the two guitar tracks I had recorded, both of those problems went away. I was really baffled by this, as it doesn't seem like those audio tracks should be affecting Jamstix in any way at all.

Looking into it further, I found that the real problem was that I had two instances of a harmonic exciter VST (one in each guitar track) that I was checking out. If I just disable one of them, the issue goes away.

I still don't understand why this happens, but at least those two issues are solved.

[Ralph [RZ]]

[Ralph [RZ]]

[Ralph [RZ]]

[dto]

Thanks Ralph -- I'll check it out tonight.

Last night I installed much of my music software on my laptop (it's always been on my desktop). Just to make sure things were working I copied over one of my Tracktion projects with Jamstix in a rack, and when I opened it everything loaded up from the get go. This was making me wonder if something specific on my desktop was keeping it from happening. If the new DLL makes a difference, though, I won't worry about it.

[dto]

[Noisepolluter]

Hi All,

this is half-question, half-progress report.

The three things I've been working towards figuring out with Jamstix in Tracktion 2.0 are as follows:

1) Laying down an ultra-quick combined jamstix-and-instrument track

2) recording a single stereo jamstix audio track, in isolation, as a simple foundation to compose and record the other instrumental parts on top.

3) being able to simultaneously record jamstix as 3 or 4 separate tracks for individual fine tuning, using the rack function as discussed earlier


(1) is easy - I put the audiom8 and jamstix filters on the same track I'm using to record the audio, making sure that the input is from my soundcard's internal mixer rather than directly from the analog inputs. A small degree of tinkering with the end-to-end settings and the "mute audio output" switch in audiom8 is usually necessary to prevent a wierd feedback echo happening.

I've more or less found out how to do (2) - I record a bass/guitar part with the live jam running, but the jamstix filter in a different track so it plays sound but isn't recorded. This is recording directly from the soundcard's inputs and not the internal mixer.
When the audio track is down, I then switch to internal mixer, mute the output in audiom8 so it still drives the live jam but doesn't play the instrument sound along with the drums. I then record onto the track with the jamstix filter which gives me another stereo track just with drums.


With (3), I can manage to set up a rack filter and have got outputs routing successfully to 3 or 4 separate tracks, though this does increase cpu usage dramatically. What I can't figure out from here is how to record them (my soundcard only has one analog stereo input). I guess I must just have to use the same technique as with (2) above, but with 4 separate passes recording one stereo track each time till they're all done.

I've probably explained all this really badly, but if anyone does understand it, could they suggest a way of doing (2) and (3) more simply, ideally in a single pass?

Cheers,

NP

[dto]

I think I'm missing something with what you are trying to explain, but you shouldn't have to feed the input of Jamstix four different times just because its output is going to four different tracks.

If you play your arrangement through once, the four outputs should sound the same as if you weren't feeding all those separate tracks.

I haven't used audiom8 much yet, but I don't think you want that on the same track that Jamstix is in -- you want that in the track that contains the audio that will drive Jamstix.