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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | right-click on an event in the bar editor, when no other events are selected, opens content menu for that sound |
It works, but then selects the element I right clicked, which is not desirable in my opinion. |
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bosone Jamologist

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| acabreira wrote: | | Quote: | | right-click on an event in the bar editor, when no other events are selected, opens content menu for that sound |
It works, but then selects the element I right clicked, which is not desirable in my opinion. |
IMHO it is the best option... _________________ listen to my music at
http://www.alchemystudio.it |
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| bosone wrote: | | acabreira wrote: | | Quote: | | right-click on an event in the bar editor, when no other events are selected, opens content menu for that sound |
It works, but then selects the element I right clicked, which is not desirable in my opinion. |
IMHO it is the best option... |
But I can't quickly change many cells this way. It defeats the original intent of the feature. It should be at least an optional behavior. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Can you give an example of what you want to do to many cells at once? _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | Can you give an example of what you want to do to many cells at once? |
No, not many cells at once, but right-clicking in one cell, than another quickly without having to select each. |
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rcraig42 Jam Meister

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the enabling of multiple selection has created workflow problems when many individual edits are required, such as for manual crescendo, fade or modulation of a particular custom part. The right drag velocity functionality of Jamstix 2 is sorely missed by me in these situations.
Maybe the addition of a hotkey like ctrl for either multi edit or quick individual editing could help get "the best of both worlds"? |
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| rcraig42 wrote: | Yeah the enabling of multiple selection has created workflow problems when many individual edits are required, such as for manual crescendo, fade or modulation of a particular custom part. The right drag velocity functionality of Jamstix 2 is sorely missed by me in these situations.
Maybe the addition of a hotkey like ctrl for either multi edit or quick individual editing could help get "the best of both worlds"? |
Totally agreed, and sure I miss right-drag too. |
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rcraig42 Jam Meister

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Just to be clear where I said hot key above I really meant modifier key. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'll see what we can do there. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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bosone Jamologist

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: |
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yes, i too am missing the possibilty to control velocity simply by holding and dragging the mouse.
the new workflow for setting and editing the hits is not the best imho... and i preferred the JS2 version.
in particular i would like to be able to:
- click a note and holding shift/ctrl/alt while moving mouse to modify the volume
- click a hat event and holding shift/ctrl/alt while moving mouse to modify the hat openess
- select many notes at once and, by using the vol knob, change the volume of all of them without setting them all to the same volume (which is pretty useless, perhaps!). the vol knob must simply increase or decrease the single note velocity according to the actual value.
e.g: i select 2 notes with velocity 50 and 70. if now i drag the vol knob, both notes are set to the same velocity (60, for example.) i would like to turn the vel knob clockwise or anticlockwise and simply increase or decrease the actual note value, i.e. set the notes velocity to 60 and 80, for example, or to 40 and 60.
- when a new event is inserted by a double click, the new note should have the vel/hat openess value of the last one edited.
in this case, if i have to create a lot of notes with low/high velocity i do not have to set the volume for each one of them separately.
the editor remember the type of notes inserted: the new note is the same as the previous one. it should also remember the velocity/hat openness.
- i would like to move the event without holding ctrl/shift, but just by selecting a note and draggin it to a new position. and this should work with multiple events, too...
- and i really liked the JS2 menu for selecting the notes. Now, the submenu are clearer, but also time consuming!
just my 2 cents!  _________________ listen to my music at
http://www.alchemystudio.it
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coco_co Junior Jammer

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| +1 that workflow seems more natural |
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I miss the modifiers. I must say Jamstix 3 produces much better grooves, is more customizable and feature rich, but I miss JS2 interface, mostly the bar editor. I say JS3 produces better grooves, but when you have to manual edit, it's not very intuitive. Some key modifiers would help a lot for velocity / openness / timing drag. Bosone has good suggestions above. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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The next RC will allow using the mouse wheel to adjust velocity or hihat opening (CTRL held) of all selected notes at once. The change will be accumulative as described by Bosone. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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acabreira Grand Master Jam

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ralph [RZ] wrote: | | The next RC will allow using the mouse wheel to adjust velocity or hihat opening (CTRL held) of all selected notes at once. The change will be accumulative as described by Bosone. |
Great One, Ralph. Thanks. |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Just posted RC6 with several fixes, mousewheel bar editing support and Toontrack mappings courtesy of The_B. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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