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Guitarfish
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Auto-Compose question Reply with quote

Either I'm misunderstanding something, or this is behaving consistently. When 'Auto' is highlighted in the bar editor, lots of changes to brain controls trigger an immediate recompose (as expected) but not all. I'm struggling to find any definitive pattern to it...

As I'm testing it now, all 'style' controls seem to generate a recompose (although I thought earlier that I found some that didn't).
Some drummer controls do, including many 'rotary' controls, but also some 'balance sliders'
Many drummer controls don't, including all tested check-boxes and any rotary controls associated with them, and some other sliders, pick-lists and rotaries.

Example: Custom Rock / Carter
All style control changes do.
Both 'Counter China' controls do, so does 'funky hats'.
'Broken hats' doesn't, and I don't think anything after that does.

Is this working as intended? Confused
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Ralph [RZ]
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some controls (like 'Broken Hats') are 'composition filters' that are currently set to only recompose if the underlying groove is recomposed. That's why they don't trigger a recompose. When in doubt, just hit the COMPOSE button.
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Susan G
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
Some controls (like 'Broken Hats') are 'composition filters' that are currently set to only recompose if the underlying groove is recomposed. That's why they don't trigger a recompose. When in doubt, just hit the COMPOSE button.

Hi Ralph-

That's helpful, thanks! I've been experimenting quite a bit with the Brain controls the past couple of days, and I confess I've been scratching my head quite a bit, too!Smile

The Styles and Drummers video is very good, but I think some of us would benefit from a slowed down (not dumbed-down!), more in-depth one as well. There are probably more dependencies like the one you mention that aren't immediately apparent?

I'm sure it's just my lack of experience and understanding of some of these, but I get frustrated when I'm looping a bar and twiddle say one rotary and other seemingly unrelated things change, notes drop out or are added, etc. I think I understand Priority and Bias, etc., but then at times the logic escapes me.

Anyway, I'm glad Guitarfish brought this up, and thanks for the info!

-Susan
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Guitarfish
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, some of this is about building confidence that I understand the product and how to use it.

Now Ralph has explained, I understand the distinction and can work with it. A visual distinction between those that do and don't might just make everything a bit more predictable?

My concern was that the manual (and I thinkthe status bar message?) tell you that all changes to the brain trigger a recompose. My time to 'play with it' is very limited, so I try to get the best understanding I can from the manual while I'm on the train to the day-job. When I get a chance to play, it slows me down if it doesn't behave as expected...
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed this as well. Hit compose instead!
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