Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[arapahoe_1135]

I have a new installation of windows 7 on my new PC. I have Cubase 5 for my sequencer. I have been waiting for this version to arrive so I can put it on my 64 bit computer and the manual for beta 3 says it will work with windows 7 64 bit and with Cubase 3x

Here is the problem...

I can't install beta 3 without first installing the original Jamstix 2.0

When I install the original Jamstix 2.0 Cubase 5 won't recognize the install. It just does not show up as vst that I can load???? If it won't show up so I can install the stock kit and authorize it how am I supposed to install beta 3.0???

Really confused on this one. Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks
Wade Pugsley
Registered 2.5 user

[Ralph [RZ]]

Jamstix 2 and 3 are both 32-bit and need a 32-bit host (even though the host can run on 64-bit Windows).

They do work in some 64-bit hosts (REAPER-64, Sonar x64) but the bit adapter in Cubase 5/64 is not able to handle Jamstix correctly at this time. Please use Cubase 5/32 for working with Jamstix 2 and 3.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[BoxOfSnoo]

Absolutely LOVING that new mixer. Fabulous!

The only irritating thing I have found so far is the installer. I select a different drive to install the app (which is just the VST) then it comes up with a blank path to ALSO install the VST. I can see that the (default) program files path might be good for manuals and uninstaller etc. But the additional path spec doesn't seem to be picking up, or even defaulting.

Windows 7, Reaper 3.14... if any of that matters.

[Ralph [RZ]]

The first path the installer asks is for all the data files, which many users want on a non-OS large, fast drive. The second path (which defaults to the VST path in the registry when present) is just for the DLL and should point to wherever you like your DLLs to be so the host(s) can see it.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[BoxOfSnoo]

I did choose an external drive for that - I had to change the default from C:\Program Files to (in my case) a subdirectory under G:\.

The next path defaulted to blank. I was wondering if it would be better to default to the same path as VST+data? Or store the last used path in an installer .ini (I have installed 2 betas so far and it still came up in the second one)

I know this is just the installer, but it tells you something about the product.

It also tells you about the quality of the beta when the only thing you have to complain about is the installer!

[DrJ]

Despite the risk of getting flamed, I have to say I'm not really impressed with what I've seen so far. The GUI is huge which i don't consider a positive as I can't fit both Jamstix 3 and my sequencer's transport on my second 17" monitor. The brain is still confusing and I really think this is due to the GUI design. Personally I hate fake knobs so to me adding more is even a step back from version 2.

My other disappointment is the Song Builder.

Firstly it seems to me that it is only useful at the very beginning of composition.

The way I think it would work best would be that you can choose different Styles for Verse, Chorus, etc and that you could rearrange the song at any time without destroying any changes you have subsequently made to these Parts.

I would also like to be able to make changes to specific Parts in the Song Sheet (eg. Verse 3) and for these to remain in that specific Part upon rearrangement. Also the same for Bars that are edited in the Timeline. For example if I change the 7th Bar in the 2nd Chorus so it features Open Hats instead of Ride, that will stay the same in the 7th Bar of the 2nd Chorus even if I rearrange the song.

So essentially you will have a Song, with Parts (Verse, Chorus) and Sub-Parts (Verse 2, Chorus 3). So the names of the various Parts on the Song Sheet will mean more than just a way to seperate all the Parts, they will very actually determine what is in the part based on what you do in the Song Builder and your subsequent changes and thus making it easier to remember what the various Parts are without having to play through them to check.

If anyone needs more than I, V, P, C, B, D, S and E, they could add their own. Say Q, for example.

I love the concept of Jamstix and I think the underlying technology is brilliant. It's just a shame that I find it difficult to use. I haven't used Jamstix 2 anywhere as much as I used Jamstix 1. I could go back to Jamstix 1 but then I cant use the Jamstix 2 sounds and all the Paks without loading Jamstix 2 on another track and feeding it the midi output from Jamstix 1.

I also really miss the individual pocket controls from Jamstix 1 (Kick, Snare and Hihat. To me this was the best way to control the feel of a song, and if they could be implemented in Jamstix 3 (with different settings for each part and/or bar) I could see myself using Jamstix a lot more.

I know the different drummer models have different feels but I can't tell exactly what the differences are so I can know who is appropriate for what I have in mind (maybe if this was published in the manual that would help). Even still though I would like to have the option to control it myself.

Also I think by default the Choruses produced by the Song Builder should be more Chorus-like than the Verses (i.e. more power, switch to open hats or ride).

Anyway I should shut up and get to bed. Ralph I hope you don't take these comments merely as criticism but also as praise as I wouldn't bother if I didn't think Jamstix was a brilliant piece of software, but I don't think it has fulfilled its potential yet. Sorry to say but in my current financial position I can't see it as being worth the upgrade price as it is. Maybe the groove-builder will change my mind, who knows.

Anyway I hope you find my comments constructive, and all the best with Jamstix 3.

[Ralph [RZ]]

Criticism is always welcome!

Concerning rearrangement: the song builder is supposed to get you started on your basic song structure. Once you have that you can rearrange the parts in the song sheet by drag&drop while holding CTRL down. That won't change the parts and 7th bar stays the 7th bar.

Choruses produced by the song builder do have power hand active and, depending on drummer model, will use ride or open hats. If that doesn't work for you, tell me the style and drummer you are using.

I've toyed with the idea of adding K/S/H pocket controls as an option in the feel processor menu in the past. I'll see what we can do there.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[Ralph [RZ]]

New A5 Beta is out now.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[gmon72]

I just playing with the JS3 beta. Very cool.

I wanted to post a feature request (and please pardon me if there is someway to do this) but I think it would helpful if there was a metronome in the bar editor. If I am playing edrums (or using a keyboard) while in learn mode, it would be useful if there was a metronome playing if I was relying on the preview bar and not the host to come up with a groove etc that I wanted JS to work with.

Hopefully that made some sense. Thanks!

[bakiki_]

[NathanB_30]

doesn't your host sequencer have a metronome?

[gmon72]

[NathanB_30]

[cctaylor]

I would Like to use Kontakt 4 for my External Drums or Pluggin within but it does not seem to work?

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

[CPW_12208]

I don't know how to get to my download page for the beta.. can anyone help me? lol