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Ralph [RZ]
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can add multiple groove importers and then use 'Priority' to layer them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
You can add multiple groove importers and then use 'Priority' to layer them.


We know nothing is free in this world but, jeez, how many features are we missing from a thin manual...?

I can only hope the 3.0 manual has tons of how-to, tricks, tips and tutorials.

Ralph, if you know some of your users are power users, why not put them in a "advanced beta program as long as you promise to write a few tutorials"?

Everybody could win from this.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given that Jamstix is already a very feature rich and powerful package, and will be more so in version 3, I also would find it really helpful to have as detailed a manual as possible. I know different people learn in different ways and some will never look at the manual but I like as much information as possible. This helps me experiment. I also know that for creative people like Ralph, writing a manual must be absolute torture!
But for the manual to be helpful it has to be written by someone (or more than one person?) who knows the package inside out.

Comments on various forums have indicated that some people are put off buying Jamstix because of a (perceived) steep learning curve. There will be the new feature in version 3 to help get started (can't remember what its called) but anything that helps people buy, and use the package effectively, must be good!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will also put more time/energy in video tutorials for JS3.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
We will also put more time/energy in video tutorials for JS3.

+10,000 for this. I've been messing with Jamstix since the version 1 release and through lots and lots of experimenting, reading these forums and just plain goofing around I'm only know starting to feel that I know a little bit about the program. The best thing I've ever seen in regards to helping me understand the program was when Ben Vesco put his little tutorial up on his site a couple of years back. That helped a tremendous amount, and I waited and waited for more....but none ever came.

Unfortunately, as much as I have learned, I know I still haven't even begun to scratch the surface of this program and I'm waiting eagerly for 3 to come out..even in beta form as the listed features SOUND exciting to me. There is indeed a perceived learning curve to the software- but I think all it would take is several pointers in the right direction and I may get that *click* to finally happen. As much as I hate to admit it after all the time spent "Just Playing With It" - I have yet to produce ANY usable results with the software - not that they aren't possible - but in the small amount of time that I DO have to sit down with my DAW, I really don't have the time to spend trying to go into so much detail to try to get it to work for me. I really want to "start up and go" as much as possible if that makes any sense.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
We will also put more time/energy in video tutorials for JS3.


Be creative Ralph, ask veterans to provide tutorials and get free upgrades... You should not be the guy doing everything!

Rock on!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree.I nearly didn't bother with Jamstix because the Demo is silly.There should be NO intros to any of the default songs.I gave up the 1st couple of times because I wasn't getting any sound.
When some one loads this to try they want it to work out-of-the-box with little or no messing around.
I think business is being lost because of this!

To this end and for you Ralph and JS2 I've made a small 800k Reaper demo that will
load and play JS straight off with basic instructions.You are welcome to use it or the idea.It includes a free small synth vst.

http://www.box.net/shared/0p68zbo6b9
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dali_S wrote:
Ralph [RZ] wrote:
We will also put more time/energy in video tutorials for JS3.


Be creative Ralph, ask veterans to provide tutorials and get free upgrades... You should not be the guy doing everything!



i agree.
take for example garritan personal orchestra: www.garritan.com

there are thousands of user demo and user tutorial.
every now and then there are contests and someone get a free update.
that is the way to go!
make contests and give away some free products! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could we maybe have a separate tutorial forum where people can post tips, hint and fully fledged demos and tutorials?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if I want to update do I have to install it above 2.52 ? or a whole new version 3 install.
I would prefer to get a whole new install with version 3. throw away my version 2.
I change my system regurlary and get tired of instal program after program.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamstix 3 is completely separate from Jamstix 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph [RZ] wrote:
Jamstix 3 is completely separate from Jamstix 2.

I'm sure this must have been asked and answered somewhere, but if so I've skipped over it somehow...

Will JS3 be backward compatable with JS2?
i.e. will I be able to migrate to JS3 within a project that already has a song defined in JS2 (without having to start from scratch)?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guitarfish-

I asked Ralph about this and he said JS3 can load JS2 songs but not vice versa.

-Susan
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another upgrade question:

I have many expansion packs for JS2; will I be able to use them in JS3 without having to buy them again in JS3 format?

I mean, does JS3 look in the JS2 data folder for packs and sounds?

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: JS3 Versions Reply with quote

Not sure if this has been answered, but I'm thinking of getting the JS2 Studio version and would like to know if the free upgrade is like for like e.g. JS2 Studio (top of the range) free upgrade to JS3 Studio (or whatever the top of the range version is called) including all associated styles and sounds.
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