Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[jahc_]

I was pretty sold on the metal pak, after hearing the samples on the page, but then I tried the Jamstix 2 demo (which is minus the metal pak) and cant get anything near as good sounding using the VST plugin. The addictive drums demo version sounds a lot better than the Jamstix 2 demo, but the full version of AD is too pricey for me. I thought I had found something even better in Jamstix 2, but I cant replicate the results. I'm a newbie to music software... can anyone help me out here? I want to ensure I'm getting something good before I fork out the money. So far I'm just using mulabs for testing the VST plugins, for now. Mu labs seems to have no equaliser.. may be thats the problem?

[Sheppol_A]

Although I love my JS and have the,"Metal Pack" it is one area where programs like AD beat JS hands down.It takes me a lot of tweaking and processing to get a really good,"Metal" sounding kit.However there is no program even close to JS for creating and Natural sounding kits and some great Electro ones and for most of my work it's exactly what I need and well worth the money.

Now here's the thing.Why not buy JS and then host the AD demo in it and mix the sounds
Then you get the best of both worlds

[jahc_]

[Sheppol_A]

AFAIK they are not processed themselves but that does not mean that the recording has not been processed in other ways.Don't get me wrong you can get some good,"Heavy Kit" sounds with a little work.

Anyhoo have a listen to this done with Reaper and Jamstix.

http://www.box.net/shared/tetstp1eoy

I actually toned down the kit sound as it got,"Too" heavy

[jahc_]

[Sheppol_A]

Reaper is by far and away the best Value Recording software with Forum support as excellent as Jamstix which is also a consideration when buying software.

http://www.cockos.com/reaper/

Read some of the forum as there's an amazing amount of free information on all aspects of recording.

http://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20

It's free to download and use unrestricted for 30 days and then it's on the,""Honour" system e.g if you continue to use it,you buy it.Like Jamstix,worth every penny.

[jahc_]

[jahc_]

Bah, its 1 day later, and I still want that metal pak sound..

can a metal pak owner do a 20 second demo mp3 of what it can do for me? with 1 song with a few of the best presets? I seriously wanna hear what it can do..

[Sheppol_A]

This will not show of ful potential as the drums have not been multi channeled out.NO host processing.NO drum programming.Pure raw out-of-the-box and no mixing.

http://www.box.net/shared/j8cgt5p3j2

Note:Even with other drum software there's a lot of work to do in rock/metal tracks to get a good drum sound.There are NO quick fixes in recording.As posted it's best to mix and match two drum progams/sounds for this style and many recordists do just that even if it doesn't sound like they do.They will use a snare from one program and a kick from another depending on the project and or muli-layering of drum sounds to get what they want.

[jahc_]

[Sheppol_A]

Sounds good enough as-is I reckon. But what do these terms mean?
- not been multi channeled out
- NO host processing.

Not Multi channeled means that they are just coming out of Jamstix into my Host DAW(Digital Audio Wrokstation) software(Reaper) as a single stereo output.Jamstix can be set to send all the drums sounds out to their own seperate channels so you can treat/EQ/Compress and affect every sound individually which means you can change the sounds even more.

NO host processing means I didn't apply any effects to the drum sounds e.g they are not engineered.

I don't do drop tuning metal but this is a more processed and heavy kit sound,

http://stashbox.org/583908/BuryMeDeepFull.mp3

Which shows how versatile JS is.

[jahc_]

Okay, great!

Well, I think thats enough questions for now. I'm waiting for my guitar to arrive from another city (just moved), and for my IK StealthPlug USB to arrive from ebay.

[monkeymanx]

I did a couple of the "demo" songs for the metal pack. Well, actually they are all my tunes but "demo with danny" and "inject the poison" I mixed. There was a decent amount of post processing. Pretty much EQ and Compression. The core samples are fairly dry for the metal pack. I know, I recorded them. So there is a bit of work to get the exact sound you want but once you get your EQ and Compression settings, just save them as a preset and your done.
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[Sheppol_A]

This drum sound would work well in a metal track I think,

http://www.box.net/shared/cxmx6se9ro

It's the Dry Bonzo pak kit with a master limiter and BootEQ and ReaEQ+ReaComp on the drums.