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[Dewdman42]

Then I guess some further instructions need to be to manually add the CC4 line to the js2.ini? Because I wasn't getting that behavior.

[Dewdman42]

JS is not supposed to send the closed hihat for CC4 mode on Superior2. It needs to send (F#-1).

When I have been running this, CC4 was being sent, but wrong HH stuff was coming across. And my experience was that it was not the closed hi hat that was only coming across, I was seeing the aforementioned ride cymbal and other stuff as well.

They should all be sending F#-1 for all of them.

I also wonder about your ini file because the Factory supplied entry is [Drummer], which is the VST name for Superior1. The VST name for Superior2 is "Superior Drummer", which is not included from the factory. Is that the problem?

However, with only [Drummer] present, I still see the CC4 being sent to Superior2.

Is it possible that when CC4 is not set in ini for [Superior Drummer], that CC4 is being sent anyway, and all the discrete hh sounds as well are being sent as well?

[Dewdman42]

Another thing that could be causing this problem is the fact that Superior2 is not actually being subhosted by Jamstix in this case.

So the CC4=1 line in the ini file may not be relevant in any case when using external Superior. I would assume that Jamstix is always sending CC4 regardless, because Jamstix itself uses it....and the mapping to F#-1 needs to happen via the map.

??

[Ralph [RZ]]

Yes, CC4 is always sent to the MIDI output.
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[Dewdman42]

correct.

The subhost CC4=1 mode does not work to send hh's to F#-1 when using Superior externally. So in that case, the map needs to be setup that way.

[notringo]

Well I finally took the plunge and bought S2.
The combination of S2 and Ezplayer Pro is not for me; too much searching around for the right drum variations. I like the flexibility (and no searching around) of building a song in the Jamstix editor instead.

So I have a couple of questions regarding this:

-With the S2 and Jamstix 2 combo, can you still use the S2 mixer?

-I read Ralph's setup suggestion on this thread of using these two together, but I'm not sure how you load the S2 kit with 'Keys Only'?

-I got a message saying that Jamstix has to have the outputs set to at least 16 in order to use Superior. I know you change the outputs in the mixer, but I'm having trouble getting the outputs of both VSTi's to sync up (each seems to want to do it's own thing). Any suggestions for this?

Thanks,

Paul

[Ralph [RZ]]

[notringo]

Thanks for the reply (and good news about being able to use the mixer)!!

"What exactly is the problem?"

Good question, it's hard for me to point to just one thing. It will probably just take me a bit more time playing around with the software.
I guess my first question would be which program do you load first...Superior or Jamstix?

From the description in this thread, I got confused. At first I thought that you don't have to load Superior, just load the kit into Jamstix. But then I realized that you wouldn't have the ability to use Superior's mixer.
So I loaded Jamstix followed by Superior, but my mixer channels in Samplitude didn't seem to line up properly.
So, my next question is when loading Jamstix, do I just select "output into one channel", instead of what I normally select...multiple outs? That way I'll leave multiple outs for Superior only.

Thanks again,

Paul

[Ralph [RZ]]

[notringo]

Now I'm really confused...how do I use S2's mixer if it's not loaded?
Maybe I'm using loaded wrong, by loaded I mean it's on a midi track in the Samplitude project.

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Ok sorry, you can ignore the above question. I now know that both need to be in the host.

Can I just ask which routing do I use for Jamstix, a singe track or do I select multiple outputs?

Thanks,

Paul

[dysfunction]

You only need to worry about multi-out if you're subhosting Superior inside Jamstix. In that case you need to set Jamstix to have multiple outputs, I don't remember how many exactly, try 16.

However if you're just routing MIDI to Superior, you don't need to worry about outputs at all on the JS end as JS won't be generating any audio. In fact you want to check 'MIDI ONLY' in the Mixer, that way you can load a Superior kit to get the mappings without it trying to load the Superior plugin.

Then you need to make sure Jamstix is allowed to output MIDI (this should be an option in your host), and make sure you select that output as Superior's MIDI input.
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[notringo]

Thanks Dysfunction!
Tomorrow I'm going to get a chance to try these different things out.

Ralph I see you mentioning JS3; can't wait to see that!
If I could put a request toward the new program, it would be the following:
The ability to have a partial bar...like a 2/4 or 1/4 in a 4/4 setup.
It comes in handy for places like going from a chorus to a bridge.

Hope that makes sense,

Paul

[notringo]

Well I can get Jamstix working no problem with just the Superior keys loaded (therefore just using Superior's sounds), but I'm hitting a roadblock when I load Superior in Samplitude also.
The roadblock comes when I route the Jamstix track Out to Superior's In. It does the same thing as disabling Jamstix (I no longer have access to it).

Here's a pic:
See where it says "no effect", that is usually where I rightclick to open the VSTi, and it no longer shows Jamstix.



I realize this is probably a Samplitude thing and I posted it on their forum, but perhaps someone here will see the problem.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Paul

[notringo]

Kraznet did a quick video of the setup steps on the Samplitude website. I should be good to go now. Thanks to all of you for the tips or suggestions!!

It looks like the step I posted in the above picture (jamstix out to superior in) may not be necessary. I'll find out tomorrow when I get another chance to try it out.

Paul

ps...thanks to kraznet also!!

[notringo]

I'm up and running, so just wanted to say thanks again.
Dysfunction was pretty close to what I needed to do. There was one thing that he didn't get quite right (at least in my situation).