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[Susan G]

Hi-

SPE 7.0.2, JS2 2,2 Beta 3

I triple-checked that I'm enabling MIDI output when I insert JS2 in my project, but it doesn't show as an available MIDI input. This works fine in an older project, BTW.

Any ideas?

Thanks-

-Susan

EDIT: Update - I started a new project, inserted JS2 using a Track Template I'd saved, and JS2 shows as an input for MIDI tracks, no problem, so it must be something in my existing project. Can't think what, though!

P.S. I posted this in the SONAR forum as well.

[Susan G]

Update, this is strange...

I had a few other synths that were outputting MIDI but disabled in the Synth Rack. When I deleted them just as an experiment (since that was the only difference I could see b/w the current project and my other test projects where it worked correctly), Jamstix appeared as an input again. I can repro this pretty easily, and write it up. Has anyone seen anything similar? I can try different synth combinations to see if it's a Jamstix or SONAR thing.

Thanks-

-Susan

[Susan G]

Ok, yet another update!

When I undid my Delete Synth actions I checked after each to see if Jamstix was still an available input, and it was. Before I deleted them, a disabled synth with MIDI output was available and apparently somehow blocking the "really available" synth with MIDI out enabled, which was Jamstix.

So for now it's working correctly, but I'm thinking this might be a SONAR bug.

Thanks-

-Susan

[Ralph [RZ]]

The 'VSTi MIDI Output' support in Sonar seems to have more issues than in other hosts. Still love Sonar, though
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[Susan G]

[tombuur]

Probably as one of many Cubase users these days (the latest update fiasco) I consider going back to Sonar. So I tried Sonar 7, and it only took about 2 minutes before the first problem appeared: I cannot loop back Jamstix 2 midi as an input for a midi track in Sonar. Just cant't figure out how to do this.

Don't think I ever had this working in previous Sonar versions either, but I thought they had made it available. It works fine in Cubase, and this is my preferred way of using Jamstix. Jamstix feeds a midi track that in turn feeds Toontrack Superior. This way I can record the Jamstix output in the midi track and do some editing where needed. But alas, not in Sonar it seems?

Susan, it is supposed to turn up like a midi input option just like the external midi devices do? That's what happens in Cubase at least.

[Susan G]

Hi tombur-

[tombuur]

Okay, so I have a similar problem since JS2 does not turn up as an input option for Sonar midi tracks.

[Susan G]

Did you check "Enable MIDI Output" when you inserted it?

[tombuur]

That's it. I got the midi input from JS2. But I never managed to get Jamstix playing through Superior anyway. Instead I got lock ups and crashes. So I guess this is the final goobye to Sonar for me. I switch to Cubase 2 1/2 years ago because of trouble with UAD-1 and other vst stuff. Today I was reminded how this was.

Cubase has its problems too, but in my case less than Sonar it seems.

[dysfunction]

Odd, I've had almost no bugs with JS2 in Sonar. I'm still using 6, though. If you've already inserted JS2 and forgot to enable midi output, open up the synth rack, right click on JS, and click enable midi out.

[tombuur]

I found out about the enable midi. In Cubase it is default, so I didn't realize. Still I cannot make the project work.

I must admit that this is an old project which caused me trouble about 3 years ago when last using Sonar. So maybe the "troublemaker" is still inside the project. However, I can't realistically see what it should be. Only synths are DFHS and JS2. The rest are standard plugins from respected companies.

[bunkaroo]

I'm using the demo and cannot for the life of me get JS2 to drive EZdrummer. (Sonar 7.0.2 BTW)

This is what I've done:

-New blank project
-Insert EZdrummer with all audio outputs and load DFH kit
-Insert Dimension Pro and program a 32-bar bass part just to have something to play
-insert JS2 with Enable MIDI Output checked
-Checked MIDI Only in the JS2 mixer and verified MIDI Output is enabled in Options
-JS2 is set to JAM - No Input

I'm at a bit of a loss as to how I should set the input and output options for the EZDrummer and JS2 midi tracks.

On the JS2, I assume MIDI input is fine as Omni, yes?

What should the MIDI Output of the JS2 track be set to?

Should it be jamstixdemo, EZDrummer, or the drum map I use with EZDrummer?

When I click on the MIDI input of the EZDrummer track, I do see JS2, which has Omni and MIDI Channels 1-16 listed. I've been trying it with Omni but nothing is working. My EZDrummer MIDI output is set to the Drum Map I typically use with the Piano Roll, which routes out to the EZDrummer plug-in.

When I hit play I don't get anything from the drums. I'm expecting it to jam with the project using the EZDrummer sounds.

If anyone can help me, it is most appreciated. I'm pulling my hair out!

[Ralph [RZ]]

Make sure you have a quickstart song loaded in JS2 or create your own arrangement. You also must have a kit loaded. Since you're using DFHS, load a DFHS kit. With the 'MIDI Out Only' button in the mixer checked this will not actually load DFSH but the proper key layout and kit elements.

You also need a MIDI track in Sonar with input=Jamstix and output=DFHS.
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Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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[bunkaroo]