Rayzoon Technologies LLC

[mikecables]

Hi,

I'm not new to owning Jamstix, I've had it since version 1.7/1.8 or so. But I've just now begun to actually use it, since version 2. While setting it up, I noticed that messages sent to it via CC4, to control Hi-Hat opening/closing, operate in reverse at the Jamstix Brain, when in Drum Module Mode. Whereas 0 should expect an open hat, and 127 should expect a closed one (with 3 other variations in between, at 25% to 75%), I get the reverse... 127 gives open and 0 gives closed.

I saw another post here where someone thought they had the same problem, but were apparently sending it backwards from their software. Ray explained it to him, he changed it, and it apparently worked. But, in my case, it really does seem to work in reverse.

But I'm using it a bit differently, so I'll explain my path:

I currently use a setup of e-drums, which consist of Clavia DDrum systems; a DDrum3 Turbo for the drums and a DDrum4 for the cymbals and hats. This DDrum4 unit sends the CC4 information. All of this gets recorded in Logic Pro (on a Mac) and then re-output back to the units. But I've crafted my Logic Environment to be able to redirect outputs to my other PC's Midi inputs as well, because my final audio recordings are done to a PC running an SSL Soundscape System.

It is on this PC that Jamstix resides. In this way, I can trigger the Jamstix brain from Logic on the Mac, and record the audio immediately to the recorder, to individual tracks, via the ASIO driver streams on the PC (it has 64 input and output streams, so I can have each drum and/sound on individual tracks).

I could host the VSTi directly in the SSL system, and I no doubt will experiment with doing it that way in the future, but for now I've found it easier to run Jamstix separately, hosted on the PC through a program called Plogue Bidule, which the Jamstix manual states is compatible with Jamstix. That way I can exercise diverse routings on the PC, the same way that I can in Logic's Environment on the Mac, prior to laying down the final audio recording.

I've managed to use Plogue Bidules plugins to invert the CC4 information on it's way into the Jamstix VSTi, so it kind of works. But I'm not sure, at this point, why the other fellow's problem was resolved by Ray's advice, because mine is directly the opposite... I know that I AM sending the control in the proper order, because I can view it through a Midi Monitor placed just prior to it's entry into the Jamstix module.

The other thing that seems odd about the hats is this business of needing to turn GM Mapping on and off, to get it to work at all. Another fellow here who described THAT very problem said that it worked like a toggle, which meant that as lonng as he pressed or un-pressed that button after loading a kit, the hat would work, regardless of the button's status. But, in my case, the hat won't work at all unless the button is pressed to Map GM Input, and I don't use GM Mappings because my Logic outputs have all been mapped, through transformers, to match all of my outside gear, individually and uniquely for each one.

Sorry for the long post... it's not the best way to introduce one's self to a forum, I know, but I really thought I might as well roll 'em up and get into it... I'm pretty sure there will be other questions that I'll have, but I'd like to get this one sorted out first.

Finally, I'd like to compliment Ray on this very well-done software. It's not just for the "jamming" thing (that's fantastic in and of itself), but for the absolutely great drum sounds he has in this package. I've worked for many years making professional records with alot of drum-model brains and software... DDrum, Roland, DFH, Addictive, BFD, Drum Core... and I can tell you that NONE of it sounds better, or more real, than some of the kits and parts that Ray has made here... so Congratulations, Ray, and thank you.

Now if I can just get the hi-hat working...

FM

[Ralph [RZ]]

Are you using 2.1.4?
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[mikecables]

Yes, I am using 2.1.4. Sorry for not mentioning that. And, even more sorry for using the name 'Ray' to refer to you, Ralph. It was late, I'd just joined the board, and I kept thinking 'RAYzoon', hence the mistake.

I've just now received your email with the attachment. I'll try it out and let you know what happens. Thanks.

By the way, my name is Frank... very pleased to meet you.

FM

[mikecables]

Well, no luck, because I can not load the new plugin file without getting corrupted or missing graphics, so I can't even test the fix.

When I load the new version, I see the Jamstix Interface with alot of borders, buttons and other graphics missing. I tried many things to refresh the view, thinking it might be the caching on the graphics card... no joy. I went to my main audio program and tried to host it there, thinking it might be Bidule... same problem.

I went back to Bidule and reloaded the original 2.1.4 and all came back to normal. I did this over and over 4 times to make sure. When the old file is loaded, it looks normal. When the new one is loaded, in any host, the graphics are missing and corrupted.

One other thing... once I went back to the original, I started Bidule with the plugin loaded (from having saved the Bidule setup) and I got the following Windows Error Message:

This file requires Jamstix version 2.01.04 or higher!

I pressed OK and my setup is there, Jamstix worked and everything, but the next time I got the message again.

I repeated this a few times and always got that message. I then did a re-setup of Bidule, with no plugins, reloaded the plugin (same one) and saved to a different file. Opening that one has now removed that message, so it seems to be opening again... for now.

I don't get it, because I was right back to all the same files I had originally, so did the introduction of the newer .dll change something that had not been changed back when I put the original back, until I started a different way?

Anyway, that aside, the most important thing is that the .dll did not come up properly, so my hi-hat still has the original problem.

Thanks,

FM

[Ralph [RZ]]

Please send me the file rzdlog.txt from the Jamstix2 folder.
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Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
http://www.rayzoon.com

[mikecables]

Sent via email. Thanks.