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rich_h
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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: Feature request: 7/4 time signature |
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| Is there any chance of adding 7/4 to the available time signatures? I use this sometimes, and while I have tried 7/8 at half time it doesn't sound right. Typically, the feel of 7/4 (to me at least) is alternating bars of 4/4 and 3/4 so it would possbly be some amalgamation of the existing information? |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Set the host to 7/8 and halve the BPM. Now use the song menu and click 'Groove Weights'->'Load' and then use the 'Double Time' file. This should yield much better results.
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rich_h
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, I'll give it a go and report back! |
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rich_h
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| I tried it, but it didn't really work for me, ie. for a rock rhythm I want the basic beat to have snare on beats 2, 4, 6 and 7 whereas using 7/8 gives it on 3 and 6. The Mtown beats come closer, i.e. the ones that have the snare on all beats. |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Using 8th Rock, 7/8 and double speed weights will give you snares on 2,4 and 6. You can then hand-edit the kick on 7 in the core bar(s) to a snare as needed.
You can also hand-edit the desired kick/snare pattern and then save it to use as a import style. See the 'Create Your own Base Groove' video on our site for details.
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max.noise
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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+1 for 7/4 support from my side. Its a quite common odd time signature, I guess.
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Nodrog1961
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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+1 for 7/4
+1 for 5/4 while you're at it  |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Nodrog1961 wrote: | | +1 for 5/4 while you're at it |
Jamstix 2 can handle 5/4 already.
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Nodrog1961
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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My bad - sorry. I'll try that soon.
Great country waltz by the way - really made an older song I was working on... |
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lion_tone
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Why not just count a measure of 4/4 and then a measure of 3/4. Thats how drummers count it. 4s and 3s, or 2s and 3s if its 7/8.
1-2-3-4/1-2-3 or,
7/8 = 1-2-1-2-1-2-3 |
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Ralph [RZ]
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Compound time sigs are not feasible since each part in JS2 can only have one time sig. The root problem here are limitations of the VST interface.
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Amberience
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| lion_tone wrote: | Why not just count a measure of 4/4 and then a measure of 3/4. Thats how drummers count it. 4s and 3s, or 2s and 3s if its 7/8.
1-2-3-4/1-2-3 or,
7/8 = 1-2-1-2-1-2-3 |
That does work, but when you only have 18 parts with which to work with, you can't feasibly do a whole song like this.
Also, putting in time signature information in your host can be a tedious process, especially when its changing every two bars or something.
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siriusbliss
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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In Samplitude I can map time signatures or beat markers ahead of time.
Would it be possible to have 4 'measures' in JS2 and simply set first and 3rd measures at 4/4 and 2nd and 4th at 3/4?
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Ralph [RZ]
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No, because each part in JS2 must have the same time sig. The only work-around I can think of is to use JS2 in liveloop mode and alternate via PC events from the host between two parts in JS2 (4/4+3/4).
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