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johnzed Junior Jammer

Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 17 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: A quick comment... |
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I haven't been on the forums since the launch of JS2 - I've been busy making drum tracks that sound fantastic! Thanks, Ralph and team - I can't think of anything else I need JS2 to do, it is as if I dreamt my ideal software and it appeared. A few small issues which I'm sure will be fixed soon -
1. using Novation Remote SL, I'm having a few problems with the auto-assignment of VST parameters. I just use a manual template and it's not a problem.
2. My assignment of CCs to parameters needs to be done each time I insert JS2 anew. I only use a few (power, timing and some of the fill stuff mainly) so no problem.
3. The knobs in the drum assignment area (in Kit, volume, damping and tuning for example) are quite touchy and occasionally don't respond. I use Cubase 4.
I love the new JS2 Kick Drum(s), I found the JS1 and various Pak versions a little soft for my liking but the JS2 dry kick is everything I need - I'm sure that those who like to have their drums as natural as possible preferred the older ones but I like to have to do as little work on my drum sounds as possible.
As a tip, I use Battery 2 drums for many of my tracks but always use the JS2 hi-hats as I absolutely love the CC4 closed-to-open hat feature. Previously, I would use an open HH and assign a CC to the decay so I could sort of emulate a drummer loosening up his hat pedal when the music picked up a notch. Now, I use the CC4 thing and it sounds stunningly real. I don't think enough of this is made in the manual.
For fantastic Hip Hop beats, I use the RnB standard pattern and vary the drummer for different feels. For a more machine like, but still eerily human flavour, I use the JS1 drummer.
Keep up the good work, I've been writing on other forums telling people about this amazing drummer. Often JS2 is not mentioned when VSTi drummers are profiled and it's a crime. Especially as it's the perfect partner for EZ Drummer, Addictive Drums or Battery.
The biggest problem I now have is that I'm having to re-do many of my old tracks which were done with JS1 as I'm not satisfied with them anymore - the timing/feel slider function is something I have been wishing for for ages, I had thought that Guru had done it with it's timing parameters but to be able to run through a song and adjust the push/pull live - well, it's almost better than having a real drummer. Of course, once I've adjusted the feel on a track I then need to go back and re-record the bass and sometimes the guitar to match.
Sorry to gush but the smart, musical thinking behind this programme and the jaw-droppingly great support leaves me no choice.
Thanks again.
John _________________ John Zed
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: Re: A quick comment... |
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Thanks for your kind words!!
| johnzed wrote: | 2. My assignment of CCs to parameters needs to be done each time I insert JS2 anew. I only use a few (power, timing and some of the fill stuff mainly) so no problem.
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Use Load/Save in the mapper dialog to quickly recall previous mappings. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
Rayzoon Technologies LLC
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johnzed Junior Jammer

Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 17 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: Saving CC assignments... |
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I should have known this had been considered. Back to the manual again, I suppose. Cheers, Ralph.
I guess my 'kind words' reflect just about anyone who has been using Rayzoon products for a while. It's nice to know that people can be so fiercely loyal when a bit of consideration and concern is shown in product support. _________________ John Zed
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Musikman4Christ Jamologist

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 116
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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So many times I have been so troubled by the fact that I could not record my drum tracks the way I would love for them to sound. I know how to play the drums, well, sort of, not a pro or anything, but enough to keep up with the beat, but that is with the real thing. But, when ever I tried to translate the little that I knew to midi by hitting my keyboard keys, well, it never sounded right.
Now, with this amazing program JS2, I am able to make a drum track sound truly amazing. I am not 100% there, but I am working hard at it. I know that the new GUI is impressive and sometimes we get used to the old, but I really love what Ralph and the team have done with this amazing little pgram. It's so awsome to have your family say, hey whos playing drums for you in there? I mean, my music room) well, I say, its the Computer. They say what? Yeah, its the computer. How awsome is that.
I truly hope that Ralph and the team get really blessed and prosper because they deserve it. Just look at all the support and attention we get. And this has been like that since day one. So its not just one season we get all the attention, its all the time. That is why I am trying to really learn it so I can help out the newbees and spread the word out there about this amazing program. The only way we all can truly help Rayzoon, and Ralph, is to spread the word. Tell everyone about this amazing little drummer program that does wonders. To me, it litterally sparks inspiration on new songs. Sometimes, JS does a weird beat and gets me going with the guitar. Now that I figured out the locking thing, its even better cause I can keep building bit by bit.
JS2 is simple amazing. GO OUT THERE N TELL SOME ONE!
Love you all.
THank you Ralph, may God bless you and all your company! _________________ Musikman
"I know the plans that I have for you, declares the LORD. They are plans for peace and not disaster, plans to give you a future filled with hope." When you wholeheartedly seek me, I will let you find me, declares the Lord."Jeremiah 29:11 |
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Nodrog1961 Junior Jammer

Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Newbie request? |
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I just got JS2 2 days ago so please excuse me if this has already been asked for or it already does this (and I just need to figure out how to do this). But it would be cool if JS could pick up on MY groove.
I'm working on a pop ballad with a few well placed anticipated beats and a mild swing feel that I'd love to get JS to pick up on while I'm playing in Jam mode. Also got a solo part with lots of triplets that would also be good to get some hits on.
I just saw some some videos on midi import and adding my own groove, so I will try those out next time I get some studio time
Any pop/power ballad styles/grooves out there?
I do have a few tunes that should map really well to the Metal Pak - really looking forward to getting to those  |
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Nodrog1961 Junior Jammer

Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| One other thought - what about supporting VST3 standard? Not sure how prevalent VST3 is in other products, but its supported in Cubase 4. I think it makes it easier to setup integrated Instrument tracks within Cubase and support their browser capability (though I don't know how that would really work with JS2, unless it auto selected the style/song). |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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We will support VST3 when it becomes a widely supported interface, which it is not at this time. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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Phil Fee Jamologist

Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 105
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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AFAIK, Steinborg has yet to release the VST3 SDK which is pretty much essential for third party developers. Nobody but the Borg have released a VST3 plugin.
As far as the C4/N4 browser goes the general view seems to be that it is an absolute trainwreck which makes normal use of presets users create and share much less convenient.
The main advantage of VST3 spec at this stage is support for side chaining in plugins. |
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ProfRhino Grand Master Jam

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 230
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Fwiw, even though I like the MediaBay idea for most VSTi or FX I don't see much benefit for JS.
Track presets only support a single stereo out afaik, and then JS is not that well suited to using presets, every drum situation is different so I prefer starting from scratch anyway.
But maybe that's just me ...
Btw, a plugin doesn't have to be VST3 to use vstpresets at all, VST3 is mostly about sidechaining, surround routing and CPU saving.
Ymmv, correct me if I'm wrong,
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balistick Jammer

Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 46
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know it may sound quick after Bonzo pack release ( i am buying it tomorrow morning ), but i am ungry for more to look for....lol
Based on other thread i have looked at, i conclude that Percussions are next to come, am i right ?
This will be so cool. But i haven t found much info on that. Ralph , please give us more... |
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gezzer Jammer

Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 43 Location: North Stonington, CT
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Rockville,
I will second that. Although Steinberg has shown some improvement. Still I would vote Ralph for CEO
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 13332
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| balistick wrote: | I know it may sound quick after Bonzo pack release ( i am buying it tomorrow morning ), but i am ungry for more to look for....lol
Based on other thread i have looked at, i conclude that Percussions are next to come, am i right ?
This will be so cool. But i haven t found much info on that. Ralph , please give us more... |
Jamcussion is next on the list but there is no release date at this time. It will come with a large number of hand percussion sounds and will expand the Jamstix GUI to support 6 new percussionist hands. Basically, there will be a switch at the top of the GUI to toggle between the 'drum' and the 'percussion' view of the arrangement. Bar editor, song sheet, brain and kit editor will change correspondingly with that switch. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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dhsherbert Junior Jammer

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Ralph,
Is the "Jamcussion" in view or on the far horizon? I need a Latin percussion setup and one with a "brain" would really make things nice. I can hang in there with a GM set if things are moving along well with your new set.
Thanks,
Doug |
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Ralph [RZ] Site Admin

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Jamcussion is our priority item at this time but I can't give you a release date. A conservative estimate is 3-4 months. _________________ Ralph Zeuner
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dhsherbert Junior Jammer

Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Ralph, for taking the time to respond.
Doug |
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