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Tips/Tricks re: Recreating Drums for Cover Songs

 
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fester2000
Junior Jammer
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Tips/Tricks re: Recreating Drums for Cover Songs Reply with quote

Hey all --

First off, Jamstix is amazing. I've spent a lot of time with v2, and it's been a complete blast!

I'm working on a cover of Alice In Chains' "Junkhead" and I'm looking for advice re getting the timing of the beats to be perfect. I may have picked a tough one to begin with, but the BPMs of this song seem to literally wander all over the place. I'm using Reaper v2 (also spectacular IMHO), and I've had to insert about 30 time changes into the song just to keep every beat on track with the original song.

Is there an easier way? Do lots of songs have varying BPMs like this song?

What I did to get a baseline was to insert a click track that tied to the project's bpm. This let me get close to the correct timing for each section of the song before I started messing with the drums.

Any other brilliance or ideas? Thanks in advance...
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J van E
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the timing changes very small or big? I mean, are they real composed 'time changes' or is the drummer just bad at keeping a steady rhythm? In the last case I'd forget about locking into the original and I'd pick a steady rhythm for the project. Not every drummer is perfect, so changes in timing aren't strange. I'd focus on covering the song by listening to it, not by copying it exactly.
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fester2000
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J van E wrote:
Not every drummer is perfect, so changes in timing aren't strange. I'd focus on covering the song by listening to it, not by copying it exactly.


Normally, this is what I'd do, but I'm actually collaborating on the tune with others and we started with a bed track of the original song. Since I'm responsible for the drums, I need to get them pretty darn close to make it sound good with what the other folks are doing with vox, guitars, etc.

In hindsight, we should have started with the drum track and made that the bed track. Live and learn...
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